Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL
0:00 Alright guys, so thank you so much for coming.
0:04 Thank you for the facility. Really nice one. We appreciate it.
0:08 I’ll be the guests who showed up today. We’ve got a number of
0:12 things that are going to be on here.
0:12 We’re going to try to get wrapped up at 12 o’clock.
0:16 Basically, it’s come down to basically
0:20 a review from previous projects that we actually have
0:24 initiated to make sure that they’re all online. And then
0:28 basically taking
0:28 our school board as far as the functions of
0:32 it and how we do work and just kind of solidifying that into a
0:36 plan.
0:36 So, meaning that we’re going to talk today about how we want
0:40 these budgets to look, how we want calendars to look, and how
0:44 that looks
0:44 as far as in the future, how we can utilize a little bit more
0:48 organization on the board. And then, if you can, we have
0:52 lead that requested some time to go over what they’re
0:56 doing right now. So if they have any questions, they can ask it.
1:00 They presented earlier this week
1:02 that I thought that they would need
1:04 to present to the rest of you guys before they
1:06 move forward with some of the stuff to get paid.
1:08 Tell them about anything.
1:10 Are they here specifically here? Are they…
1:12 There’s one of them coming here.
1:14 And then there’s two of them on that thing.
1:16 I’m not sure which one’s in which.
1:18 All right. So the first topic that we have is…
1:20 We have some reviews from the first initial off site that we had.
1:26 We all said that we had some projects that we wanted to work on.
1:30 John, you can talk about a recent project.
1:32 Ms. Wright, you can talk about your calendar, right?
1:36 Ms. Wright and Dr. LeBell, I worked for the last couple of weeks
1:43 to make sure that those were up to speed.
1:46 We had a list of them and everything else.
1:48 I’m going to turn it over to Dr. LeBell.
1:50 If you guys have questions, just make sure we’re on pace.
1:52 And we can discuss them.
1:54 So Dr. LeBell.
1:56 Thank you, Chair.
1:57 What I’m going to do is just run through some of the initiatives
1:59 that each of the board members brought up at the last off site
2:01 and where we’re at with those.
2:04 So I’m starting with Ms. Wright.
2:06 She wanted to make sure that we were on target to launch open
2:10 gate at all middle schools next year.
2:13 And we are on target for that.
2:15 We actually work on the purchase orders to order the new units
2:18 for all the middle schools.
2:21 And we will roll out a phase rollout like we did with the high
2:25 schools.
2:26 High schools, we did one at a time over a period of seven months.
2:29 We’ll actually do two at a time.
2:31 It’ll be shorter timeframe, but also do that.
2:36 We’ll have training for the middle school principals at the next
2:38 principals meeting,
2:40 but then also training as we get open the next school year with
2:44 the staff that will actually be managing the station.
2:46 So I’m on target for that.
2:49 As Mr. Seusson mentioned, Mrs. Wright was talking about a
2:52 modified calendar.
2:54 And so we have a survey that we’re going to issue to the staff
2:58 at calendar seven.
3:00 We believe staff are a good barometer as to the advantages and
3:06 disadvantages of the modified calendar.
3:08 So after we get the results of that survey, then we can use that
3:12 information to develop some other materials that could be like
3:17 another survey.
3:18 To the staff, the rest of our schools to see if they’re
3:22 interested.
3:23 And also to talk about surveying the community as a whole.
3:28 Dr. Doug, can I just real fast interject?
3:31 One of the hurdles of the modified calendar that we had faced
3:33 with the district was the legislation that ties up hands on when
3:38 we can start school with the August time school start date.
3:40 But one of the possible ways to be exempt from that was being a
3:44 district of academic excellence, if I’m understanding correctly.
3:47 So there’s a process to apply for that for a district to do so
3:49 and that takes place in the summertime.
3:52 Yeah.
3:53 When that window opens up, can I just please that be a priority
3:55 for a district to go ahead and apply for that?
3:57 We should already be doing it because we have a GPA for the past
3:59 two years.
4:00 But that is a way that we could possibly work around if
4:03 legislation doesn’t change.
4:05 Yeah.
4:06 We already plan on taking that.
4:07 Thank you.
4:08 All right.
4:09 Thank you.
4:10 And Dr. Doug, just so everybody understands we’re not talking
4:13 about paying my calendar for any elementary school for next year.
4:17 No.
4:18 We’re in the process of doing the category.
4:19 It’s Lauren, right.
4:20 One of the questions I had is, is that we’re going to survey the
4:22 staff at the school.
4:24 Would we be interested in possibly putting together a survey to
4:27 the parents of that school?
4:29 Yeah.
4:30 We want to see what the staff has to say.
4:32 What are the advantages they see from a pedagogical standpoint
4:35 of instruction and that kind of thing.
4:38 You know, the staff were very interested in returning to the
4:42 modified calendar.
4:44 So they may have experienced a lot of experience within the past.
4:47 So I want to hear from them what the advantages are.
4:50 I think it would be good to open up to the families as well
4:52 because we saw some of the families.
4:54 And I say so.
4:55 I think we lost maybe 30 or 40 families that went to different
4:58 schools still in Fort King John’s feeder chain there.
5:01 They ended up coming back after the fact and they raved about it,
5:04 but it took them a minute to realize that this calendar is not
5:07 what they thought it was.
5:07 So when they came back, they were very interested.
5:10 So I would say we should, I agree with some of the staff, but if
5:13 you’re okay with it, why not survey the families as well?
5:16 Because that feedback is going to be imperative if we move
5:18 anything forward.
5:19 Yep.
5:20 Well, I mean, I feel like if the families weren’t happy with it,
5:23 they wouldn’t stay because they have the option to go somewhere
5:25 else.
5:26 I’ll be interested to see the academic data when we come back at
5:29 the end of this year because the whole situation would be more
5:32 compelling if we saw results better than what we saw and we
5:35 haven’t seen significantly improved results or improved results
5:38 at all.
5:39 So I, again, just one year, so it’s not worth, you know, it’s
5:41 not, it’s hard to make a difference there.
5:44 But I can get the academic data this year because I feel like if
5:46 we’re going to make such a huge adjustment, it would be, since
5:50 academics are our focus, it would be good to have compelling
5:53 data.
5:54 I agree 100%.
5:55 I have expressed this frustration with the leadership at the
5:57 school specifically because they’ve had some programs that are
6:00 targeted really for the students that are struggling
6:03 academically, but those are the kids that are putting in the
6:05 programs when we’re on the intersession.
6:07 So, you know, the focus, yeah, so that’s one of the frustrations.
6:10 It’s like, great, we’re running these camps and we’re having
6:12 these, you know, we’re really trying to focus in on bringing up
6:15 the school grades, obviously, because you have more time
6:17 available after those kids that we identified struggling
6:20 throughout the school year.
6:21 And unfortunately, for whatever reason, I don’t know if the
6:24 families just refused to participate or there wasn’t a heavy
6:27 emphasis from the school leadership standpoint, but the kids
6:31 that were involved in those were not participating in there.
6:33 So it didn’t move the needle like it was supposed to move the
6:35 needle, but I’m going to blame that somewhat to the fact that
6:37 the leadership at the school didn’t really heavily focus on
6:40 making sure that the kids that needed the additional help were
6:42 getting it.
6:43 And I hate that it’s nice if I can say that, but that is really
6:46 what I believe the school said.
6:48 I think that literally is the only true way to see the gains
6:51 inside of a model like calendar is to take those intersessions
6:54 and really work into the students’ doctrine building.
6:57 Can you find out a hurdle up there to kind of block that?
7:01 Yeah.
7:02 I guess, you know, are you going to look at the survey before
7:05 they go out and make sure that…
7:07 I think the board as a whole, can we see the survey prior to it
7:09 being issued off to all the staff?
7:11 Sure.
7:12 Okay.
7:13 All right.
7:15 So the next thing that Mrs. Wright talked about was looking at
7:18 some numbers of the C and T-part state and extracurricular
7:23 activities,
7:24 primarily sports, to see if their attendance is higher, if their
7:28 grades are higher, stuff like that.
7:30 We have national statistics that show that, but Mr. Robinson is
7:34 putting together a mechanism to gather all that data.
7:39 Okay.
7:40 That he is working on it.
7:41 Right.
7:42 In the future, they would be able to use it.
7:44 Well, we would basically show, you know, for the last two years,
7:48 all the students who were submitted to boards,
7:50 this was their attendance, average attendance, this was their
7:53 average GPA, stuff like that,
7:55 and see if that was higher than the average student.
8:00 It would be really easy to look for music students because those
8:03 classes are enrolled in and that’s in focus.
8:07 Okay.
8:08 So you don’t have to, the sports or activities they’re involved
8:10 in are not necessarily in focus.
8:12 Right.
8:13 We can, we can pull those co-curricular classes pretty easily.
8:15 Yeah.
8:16 You know, the music, by far, is one of the strongest, you know,
8:22 sports I think does,
8:23 but anybody that’s participating in music has always been
8:25 speaking everything else.
8:27 Go ahead.
8:28 So that was it for Mrs. Wright.
8:31 We move on to Mr. Trent.
8:33 There were three.
8:34 We were working on one.
8:35 Lake County has, what, an alternative hours high school.
8:40 It’s kind of how this introduced us as the school board and
8:45 Superintendents conference back in December.
8:47 Mr. Raymer has checked into that.
8:50 He’s talked to the officials in late tonight.
8:53 He and Mrs. Harris are actually going to visit the school over
8:57 spring break.
8:58 And I don’t want to necessarily downplay, but it does not appear
9:06 to be much different than things we already do.
9:09 But we still can go look at the school.
9:12 It is an old school that they turn into kind of like a technical
9:15 center.
9:16 That’s similar to what we’re going to clearly.
9:19 We’re still dead.
9:20 And so the students can come there for the part of the day to do
9:22 their academics.
9:23 And also the part of the day to do some technical training.
9:27 But it’s not what we thought it was.
9:33 So we’re looking at like a high school and saying we’re going to
9:35 run a high school because it’s 4:30 a.m.
9:38 I’m just going to push up there.
9:39 That’s kind of what we thought.
9:43 Right.
9:44 But it’s not looking like it’s not.
9:45 It’s not here to be that.
9:46 Okay.
9:47 So it’s just a turn.
9:48 It’s going to go.
9:49 Is there any county in the state that has something where there’s
9:52 just different hours?
9:54 I don’t know.
9:55 When you start whispering, how’s it just more so that they got
9:57 in trouble obviously?
9:58 Well, in Martin County, when I was working in Central County,
10:02 Martin County pricing store, one of the things they did is they
10:07 had adult ed diploma program, not TED, at their high schools at
10:11 night.
10:11 And once you’re 16, you can put you off on regular enrollment
10:11 and go to that.
10:12 Right.
10:13 Which we have that at our high schools.
10:14 Yeah.
10:15 We already have that, but we don’t have it at every high school.
10:16 Okay.
10:17 And I don’t think that we need that.
10:18 Okay.
10:19 We need for that.
10:20 So, you know, but he’s going to go to the alternate high school,
10:22 but Mr. Ten, one of the plus two, we got to be here.
10:23 Look at that.
10:24 One of the other things that I’m trying to pass this one thing
10:25 to was, you know, you know,
10:26 he’s going to have to go to the high school.
10:27 He’s going to go to the alternate high school, but Mr. Ten, one
10:28 of the plus two, we got to be here.
10:30 Look at that.
10:31 One of the other things that I’m trying to pass this one thing
10:32 to was, you know, he’s going to have to go to school.
10:36 He’s going to go to the alternate high school, but Mr. Ten, one
10:38 of the plus two, we got to be here.
10:41 Look at that.
10:42 Okay.
10:43 One of the other things that I’m trying to pass this one thing
10:47 to was a different type of dean position, one that didn’t
10:51 necessarily require a master’s in a leadership.
10:53 So we worked up that job description.
10:55 You know, we don’t want to beat your board agendas for you guys
10:57 to prove.
10:58 We will give schools if they have an opening, so secondary
11:01 schools.
11:02 If they have an opening for a 10-month assistant principal, and
11:05 they want you to be like this position instead, we will give
11:10 them an option.
11:11 So it could be someone who hasn’t finished their leadership
11:14 degree that’s on their way for that, so they can get in the
11:18 position sooner.
11:20 Or it could be someone that doesn’t want to pursue an ed
11:22 leadership degree, but the principal and leadership team think
11:27 would be a good fit for a dean’s type of position.
11:30 We’re going to do job description and go on future board agendas
11:33 together.
11:34 How long has that been that way in Brevard County?
11:36 Because I feel like it wasn’t always that way that dean
11:38 positions were part of ed leadership and moving forward.
11:42 It’s ‘96 at least.
11:43 Really?
11:44 That’s when I was an assistant principal position.
11:47 Had to have a leadership, had to have a certification.
11:50 It’s more of a practice of what they call them because schools
11:53 call them more dean’s, but they’ve always been assistant
11:55 principal.
11:56 Correct.
11:57 Again, when I worked in St. Louis County, the dean was a teacher
12:00 on assignment.
12:02 And it’s not a student required education.
12:05 Okay.
12:06 So it’s not uncommon.
12:09 We just provide activities that long.
12:11 So it would be another option for filling a position that is
12:15 pretty impactful in a school.
12:18 And it could be that there’s a coach or something that really
12:21 has the skill set to be a good role model for kids and be in a
12:27 different position than teaching in the classroom.
12:31 So it just means more teacher evaluations for the other
12:35 administrators.
12:37 This person would not be licensed to be a teacher evaluation.
12:41 But the board might remember that two years ago, we worked out
12:47 where experienced teachers who have highly effective evaluations
12:57 over the last several years, they don’t need a classroom
13:01 observation.
13:02 So the number of times the administrators have to be a classroom
13:06 to observe has been reduced.
13:09 So there could be a trade-off.
13:11 If you want to add this position instead of an administrator
13:16 with a licensed position, then you know you’re going to have as
13:21 a principal or as a principal or as a principal more
13:23 observations.
13:24 But again, we reduced the number of observations.
13:27 So it just widens the options?
13:29 Yeah.
13:30 Why is the pool for sure?
13:31 And again, I see it more as someone who maybe had to finish
13:34 their leadership yet.
13:36 Or wants to try it out and see if they want to spend their money,
13:39 you know, masters.
13:41 So it’s just another tool in the toolbox.
13:44 So the job description you’re talking about won’t necessarily
13:46 require a masters degree?
13:47 Correct.
13:48 Okay.
13:51 And again, it’s going to come before the board to do it first
13:54 anyway.
13:55 And then the last thing he mentioned was more training for our
13:59 needs and other assistant principals, especially like elementary
14:04 assistant principals.
14:04 They don’t necessarily need training, but they’re typically the
14:07 ones who we just went at elementary school.
14:09 So more training just to make sure that, you know, they
14:13 understand, you know, how to enforce good conduct and that kind
14:16 of thing.
14:17 And how to handle different situations.
14:18 So we’ve already added more training this year and, you know, we
14:23 have a full day of training in August when they return.
14:27 That was a half day or so.
14:29 Increased training.
14:30 So Thomas, a couple of things.
14:34 Security, he talked about some more deep training on security
14:44 issues, especially security issues like weapons involved and
14:48 stuff like that.
14:50 So we’ve already worked with the sheriff’s department.
14:51 We’ve already increased some of the training.
14:53 For example, the training that the administrators will receive
14:58 next month at the LTM focuses a lot on the open gate security
15:03 system and how to handle situations when, you know, the open
15:08 gate life goes off and that kind of thing.
15:09 You know, having the open gate at our high schools has proven to
15:14 be effective.
15:16 We have secure weapons each this year and last year.
15:19 And we just want to make sure our staff know what to do with
15:22 those situations.
15:24 We did the initial training a year and a half ago.
15:26 And some of the people managing the station were not in the
15:28 initial training.
15:30 And so we need to make sure.
15:32 So we’re doing that.
15:34 Thank you for that.
15:35 Appreciate that.
15:36 Talked about having volunteers be trained to go in and read to
15:41 elementary school kids.
15:43 And he had recruited a cadre of retired teachers, one of the
15:47 volunteers for some schools in this area.
15:50 So they received training.
15:52 This is Harris’s crew has developed a standard training.
15:56 So we offer it periodically every quarter to volunteers to come
16:00 in and read.
16:01 So this is now a structured training program.
16:04 Really, after we did the training with Mr. Thomas’ group, we
16:07 decided this is something we’ll do quarterly.
16:10 So all of the elementary schools are given that information that
16:14 they share with their PTOs.
16:16 So if they have parents or volunteers that want to actually
16:19 train them how to come in and help their literacy skills, we
16:23 have that in place.
16:24 One thing he mentioned that we really haven’t worked on is
16:28 utilizing some of our open space at schools to do some CTE type
16:36 of partnerships with local industry.
16:38 Really try and see that really would only be appropriate at the
16:41 middle or high school level.
16:43 So we’re still looking at it, just not sure when something like
16:54 that would be appropriate.
17:00 And then Mrs. Campbell, and it wasn’t just Mrs. Campbell, I
17:03 think, but there’s been discussion about our elementary
17:08 assistant principal for a 10 month contract.
17:10 And we typically require a lot of them to help over the summer
17:13 run summer school.
17:15 So they end up getting paid a stipend to come in and help.
17:19 So we’ve developed an 11 month contract for system principals.
17:23 If we were to put all of our system principals on 11 month
17:27 contract, that would cost half a million dollars.
17:31 They’re not getting paid.
17:33 So what is the siphon?
17:34 What are we paying for?
17:35 That’s possible.
17:36 I mean, about $150 to $175,000.
17:39 Because not all of them runs summer school.
17:42 So not all of them.
17:44 And the amount is less than what is a month full.
17:48 So when we do one of our budget presentations later this spring,
17:52 we’ll show you exactly the cost and what that is.
17:56 So is it worth doing kind of thing?
18:01 But we’ll bring that back and start the topic.
18:05 It’s a lot more than we talk.
18:09 Yeah, it’s a lot more than we talk.
18:11 But um…
18:12 A lot of them are talking about 50, 50, 50, 70, 60, 60, 60, 60,
18:16 60, 60.
18:17 Hold on.
18:18 The range and everything is…
18:23 That’s all.
18:25 It’s a fast width, right?
18:27 And there’s more than 56 because overall I know we always have
18:31 two.
18:32 Right, but we were only talking about…
18:35 But we have one.
18:36 Two and one, right.
18:38 Okay.
18:39 So even with…
18:40 Does that have a land include subtracting out when we were
18:42 already paying?
18:44 Yeah, that was in that cost.
18:45 Okay.
18:46 In that cost.
18:47 Yep.
18:48 We’ll show it to you.
18:50 Right here.
18:51 Wow.
18:52 This may not be the time to do it.
18:56 Yeah, I mean if we’re doing all the things we’re doing, yeah, I
18:59 don’t…
18:59 I mean, it’s a need, but I…
19:01 It is because, you know, we scramble to other summer schools,
19:06 especially when we want to take the principals and be training
19:09 with them during that time.
19:11 They’re filling in every one summer.
19:12 So…
19:13 Okay.
19:14 So you’re doing that?
19:15 I’m redlining it in and working with Mr. Steven, too.
19:15 Okay.
19:16 Yeah.
19:17 We’ve been working on it to make sure that whatever the
19:18 conversations that everybody had is inside of it.
19:23 Yeah.
19:24 And they’ll bring it to each one of you when it’s complete so
19:24 that you guys can take a look at it.
19:24 Yep.
19:25 Okay.
19:26 And there’s nothing in there that…
19:27 Okay.
19:28 I’m not really involved in that.
19:31 Okay.
19:32 I’m not really involved in that.
19:34 Okay.
19:35 I’ve got to get involved in that.
19:36 I’ve got to get involved in that and get back to the video.
19:37 Okay.
19:38 So you’re doing that?
19:39 I’m redlining it in and working with Mr. Steven, too.
19:40 Yeah.
19:41 We’ve been working on it to make sure that whatever the
19:43 conversations that everybody had is inside of it.
19:46 Yeah.
19:47 And they’ll bring it to each one of you when it’s complete.
19:48 Okay.
19:53 Because there’s not a headache on either Paul’s side or our side
19:57 with anything that we’ve done so far.
19:59 No, I’m excited about it.
20:00 It won’t have to be a trainer for us as far as we did any
20:02 importance about how we evaluate that.
20:05 Yeah.
20:06 He felt very comfortable with everything that we had mentioned
20:08 and we’re going to know what he’s saying.
20:10 Thank you, Paul.
20:11 And then we’ll talk about AI and us working on AI policy.
20:16 So Mr. Steven’s crew is unique in that.
20:19 So we’re looking at it from two different lenses, future use of
20:22 AI and staff use of AI.
20:26 Any ideas to what the product will be that comes back to us?
20:29 I mean, we talk about things, but not necessarily policy, but
20:32 that framework, right?
20:34 Yeah.
20:35 So what we really are looking at is policy for staff and
20:38 training information for students and families.
20:42 So more like an awareness about AI and students like this.
20:46 But good use of AI, not too good use of AI.
20:49 These are things to look out for when using AI.
20:51 These things you can’t do to turn it in.
20:54 Have to write your paper for certain things.
20:56 And then, but for staff, appropriate use of AI.
21:01 Yeah, I know you’re working.
21:04 I so much appreciate that.
21:05 I just feel like, you know, AI is one of those things that came
21:07 on so fast.
21:08 Anything we do, we’re already behind.
21:10 And we have people who, good people who are using it and stuff,
21:15 talking to the staff, and
21:16 people who are afraid to use it because they’re going in trouble.
21:19 I mean, there are some really helpful tools out there.
21:21 And then maybe people who are using it in not all the best ways.
21:25 Yeah.
21:26 So I appreciate that, that work.
21:29 And I probably, it’s a good time that they’re working on it in
21:32 this timeframe, because I
21:34 think there’s going to be something coming out of the
21:36 legislature and the government signs
21:38 it that will also probably help shape what we do with that.
21:42 What I saw in the last couple of days was a report that one of
21:45 the bills, I think it’s
21:46 already passed, both houses, is to mandate some AI training.
21:51 Correct.
21:52 At the high school level?
21:54 Secondary, I believe.
21:55 Yeah, secondary level.
21:56 So that our students know how to use it.
21:59 And it’s worked into some literacy, AI literacy type
22:03 requirements.
22:05 I think that’s fantastic.
22:07 Yeah, so Mr. Cheatham is working with the State Association of
22:11 Education and IT People.
22:13 I can’t hear the name of it.
22:14 It’s the Victoria AI Task Force or something?
22:17 Well, that’s whatever it is.
22:20 State Association, they’re working on that.
22:23 And part of it is they want to see what happens with that
22:25 legislation before they create something
22:27 that then they have to change.
22:29 So the whole, you know, I won’t say the whole state, but the
22:33 association that he belongs to,
22:36 they’re, it’s on there, it’s like the front thing that they’re
22:39 looking at.
22:40 Or show the pictures.
22:42 Um, just kind of also asked us to look at, um, the fine art
22:46 structure position to see if
22:48 we could upgrade that and take care of that.
22:50 And then, um, looking at our consulting agreement.
22:54 So, with that, um, we wanted to move on to the website and email
23:07 portion.
23:09 Um, there’s no, they’ve developed the websites and emails for us.
23:13 Um, I took a hand on the websites to guys.
23:16 Has everybody been able to go?
23:18 I can’t believe it suggests that they may not be interested in
23:20 it.
23:21 Um, but has everybody had a chance to go and look at it to see
23:23 what they may have on the website?
23:25 It’s all basically the same.
23:26 It’s all a soft picture with a pie.
23:28 Yeah.
23:30 Nothing special.
23:31 I mean, it’s, but yeah, it does look good though.
23:33 Because it’s taking very multiple pictures.
23:35 It seems like the pictures are focused more along with that.
23:40 And the section that says, like, I think, in the news or
23:42 something like that,
23:43 actually has your, um, areas, news inside of it.
23:47 So that you could utilize that for your Facebook or something
23:50 like that.
23:51 Um, but were there any questions on the website?
23:53 I just think it was great as far as being placed on the homepage
23:57 of this district.
23:59 It was much easier to find for people to try to find.
24:02 You guys have no tab now, right?
24:04 Yeah.
24:05 We’ve caught up in the world, so it’s much easier to find, I
24:08 think.
24:08 And that’s, that’s great.
24:09 And, and the mapping and knowing which schools are in what
24:11 district, it’s just so much cleaner.
24:13 Yeah.
24:14 So we all feel pretty comfortable about it.
24:16 And now all your people aren’t calling me anymore.
24:18 Yeah.
24:19 Well, there’s a little bit of a restructure.
24:21 Um, but the other thing is, is that, um, the email, just so you
24:25 guys know.
24:25 Um, some of the city expressed that we may want to send out an
24:27 email to our, our schools,
24:30 teachers, whatever it is.
24:31 And they developed, uh, headers.
24:33 So kind of like mayfield after mayfield minute and all these
24:35 other people.
24:36 You can go in there and they will just develop your background
24:38 with a picture on it.
24:40 Real simple stuff.
24:41 And then that way, if you haven’t wanted to send out something
24:43 to your people, like welcome
24:45 to school or whatever you can do.
24:46 And that’s, that’s inside there.
24:48 So if you haven’t had a chance to look at that, please do.
24:51 Where is that?
24:52 Um, if you go in, uh, Ms. Williams is actually working on that
24:55 with GCR.
24:56 So if you go in and just say, hey, if you could show me, um, the
25:00 samples of what Pat had
25:01 and here’s what I’m looking for.
25:03 They’ll develop that.
25:04 And then you just ask GCR.
25:06 These are the, these are the people that I would like to send,
25:09 um, it out.
25:10 So once you develop that header and you guys are interested,
25:14 they’ll build it out.
25:15 Like, okay, if you want to send an email to all your parents, to
25:18 all your, you know,
25:20 teachers, whoever’s inside your district, you can start disseminating
25:22 that.
25:23 I really appreciate that because there’s times where we get,
25:25 like, scholarship opportunities
25:27 or different events that are happening in their parties towards
25:29 elementary
25:30 or towards middle or towards high school.
25:32 And I’m like, oh, it’s going through my list of my head of all
25:33 my principals and there,
25:35 you know, so it’ll make life a little easier if it works.
25:37 I think that the idea is that we have great things that we want
25:44 to let parents know.
25:45 And we know that a lot of the issues are that people want to be
25:48 in Johnny’s backpack
25:49 and it goes home and sometimes Johnny doesn’t really get it to
25:52 the parents
25:53 or it doesn’t get there.
25:54 But it’s just a way of covering more information for them.
25:57 Um, if you have any questions, go to that.
26:00 Any questions so far?
26:02 Good.
26:04 All right.
26:05 I just have to add on the mayor, as conversations we’ve had
26:07 before,
26:08 that with great power and great responsibility.
26:11 So if we have the ability to communicate outside of, um,
26:16 district channels,
26:17 we should be even more cognizant of the fact that it’s what we’re
26:20 working on.
26:21 And, um, you know, and just use those things to just –
26:25 all right.
26:26 Did we skip over district projects?
26:28 What was that?
26:29 Um, let me bring that up here to the bottom.
26:31 So it’s kind of outside of, you know,
26:35 bring up that.
26:36 Um, all right.
26:37 So we do the budget reviews.
26:38 Many of you guys know that, um, we had spoken in the last talk
26:41 about
26:42 kind of structuring our budgets.
26:43 Um, many of you may not have seen a school budget before.
26:46 Um, I looked at them every once in a while.
26:48 Basically, each one of your schools has their own budget.
26:52 They have their own expenditure list.
26:54 They have all of those components.
26:55 So what I’m doing is, is working with finance to develop you,
26:59 so that you will receive twice a year your school budgets,
27:03 so that you can review all.
27:04 And that’s going to be where you can see,
27:06 this is what they did over the summer.
27:08 This is the expenditures.
27:09 This is where they spent money with capital.
27:11 Here’s where they have reserves, everything.
27:13 So, for instance, I had one of our schools, um,
27:16 Ms. Campbell will tell you the story.
27:18 We were given 180,000, I think, of capital each.
27:21 And there was a specific amount of money that we were given,
27:23 right?
27:24 And we said, they said, okay,
27:25 each one of the board members has this much money to go spend.
27:28 So this one year we went out,
27:30 because it was a big thing that A&B was fighting for,
27:32 and we were able to get a specific allocation of capital dollars
27:35 to help support our schools in how many we want.
27:38 So we went to all schools.
27:39 One of the schools, and I won’t particularly name the name,
27:42 the PD teacher came out and said,
27:44 I mean, we needed a basketball.
27:46 Our basketball court needed to be resurfaced for years.
27:49 It’s all apart.
27:50 Is this something that you might be able to allocate?
27:52 So I went to the principal and I said,
27:54 hey, I’m thinking about doing this.
27:56 Would you look appreciative?
27:57 She goes, yeah, yeah.
27:58 She goes, we just don’t have any money.
27:59 We don’t have any money, blah, blah, blah, blah.
28:01 And then, so I allocated a specific portion of that
28:04 to take care of it.
28:05 I paid $9,000 to try to resurface it
28:07 and do all other things.
28:08 And then all of a sudden, Dr. Mullins at the time,
28:12 decided at the end of the year,
28:13 he’s going to scrub all of their reserves.
28:16 And you’re going to find out,
28:18 the school that I had done that with had in reserves $20,000.
28:21 And they were forced to put aids to spend it,
28:23 so they built an entire playground and all kinds of stuff.
28:26 So what it means is, is that sometimes we’re hearing one thing
28:29 and maybe even seeing one thing.
28:31 Does that make sense?
28:32 Plus, it just creates the transparency that’s needed out there.
28:35 Any questions on the school budget?
28:37 Maybe twice a year.
28:38 And that’s what we’ll talk about processing
28:40 and about the dates and stuff like that.
28:42 And then the other thing is,
28:43 is that the district department budgets,
28:45 each one of us receives kind of an overview
28:48 at the end of the year saying, here’s what it is,
28:50 and this is how it’s compared to last year and everything.
28:52 But we don’t receive, inside of that document,
28:55 we do receive a portion of their budget,
28:57 but we don’t receive what the expenditures were
29:00 and some of the deep dive on them.
29:03 So what we’re doing is,
29:04 just like we talked about the school budgets,
29:05 twice a year you’ll receive district departmental budgets
29:08 that are going to be so that you can review
29:10 any of the expenditures,
29:11 you can review comments they have in reserve,
29:13 you can review things,
29:14 and then have those conversations that say,
29:16 hey, you’ve got $100,000 in this budget,
29:18 what’s going on?
29:19 And a lot of times they’re saving it for something
29:21 and they’re buying them next year.
29:23 So a lot of times the budgets roll over,
29:25 stuff like that,
29:26 but it gets us to a place where we understand deep dive
29:28 as far as each one of their budgets,
29:30 rather than whatever they bring to the board.
29:32 That makes sense to you guys.
29:34 Yeah, I’m going to have you handle a response on budget,
29:36 but I’ll let you finish.
29:37 Yeah, and then let me say something about Suzanne,
29:39 and then I’m going to pay in response.
29:40 Okay.
29:41 There’s something that she came to me three days ago
29:44 and kind of changed a lot of what we’re talking about here.
29:47 And then the district budget,
29:49 what I’m going to do is once Sue Hand,
29:53 the component that she talks about,
29:55 I’m going to say in a second,
29:56 it’s finished.
29:57 We receive a district budget at the end of every year.
29:59 They roll back things.
30:01 And sometimes it does not line up.
30:03 The numbers might not line up.
30:05 But how it lines up,
30:06 if you don’t know how to read it to the apper,
30:08 which is what they report to the state,
30:10 which is very easy.
30:11 It’s only, it’s like 22 pages or something like that.
30:14 Sometimes they’ll line up.
30:16 And it’s not any, but it’s false.
30:17 Just because this is the document that we’ve had
30:19 and we’ve been doing forever.
30:20 If you guys know what I’m talking about,
30:22 it’s the one that has all her pictures in it,
30:23 all her files in it.
30:24 It talks about what her bar is.
30:26 It gives a large overview.
30:27 So it’s like, it’s the Capers.
30:29 Yeah, Popular Annual Financial Report.
30:31 Well, I think he’s talking about the Capers,
30:32 which is the regular.
30:34 Right.
30:35 Anyway, so what’s happening is,
30:36 it’s the one that we see there,
30:37 we have copies of that I have inside the office.
30:40 a hundred and something page document.
30:42 And then the actual one,
30:43 if you go to the state website and look at,
30:45 you know what I mean?
30:46 Sometimes they don’t.
30:47 So what I’d like to do is bring this back to a building,
30:51 like to one of our workshops where we say,
30:53 okay, is this what you guys see as far as what you want
30:56 that document to look like?
30:57 Because it might be that we want to line it up a little bit
30:59 different,
31:00 so it’s more transparent.
31:01 That’s all.
31:02 And if we don’t, you know,
31:03 that was the district budget.
31:04 That’s where it was.
31:05 And then, so anyway,
31:06 so we’ve been working on this stuff,
31:08 asking them to put together these examples and all that stuff.
31:12 And then Sue called me two days ago and said,
31:14 we were talking,
31:15 and she said, you know,
31:16 I’m restructuring everything.
31:17 So Sue is actually going to be doing all of what you,
31:20 I just said,
31:21 school budgets,
31:22 district budgets,
31:23 and the,
31:24 and the departmental budgets.
31:25 she’s going to be presenting to us.
31:28 Every other school would be making what she would like to do.
31:31 And I’ll ask her to,
31:32 if that’s the case since today,
31:34 I was going to put this in place as far as talking about,
31:37 and make sure that we’re moving in the right direction.
31:39 If she could bring that possibly to the net,
31:41 one of the next couple of workshops when she’s got to.
31:44 What she would like to do is present,
31:46 not only kind of what we received as far as the amendments,
31:49 but a little bit more on the direction and things like that.
31:53 Does that make sense?
31:54 She’s restructuring the finance department,
31:56 and I’ve been working on this for two months,
31:59 and then all of a sudden,
32:00 she takes over finance.
32:01 So she’s,
32:02 and I felt completely comfortable letting her take this portion.
32:05 but the idea is,
32:07 is that we would like to be able to grab a school budget,
32:11 and say,
32:12 I want to take a look at this school budget,
32:13 and have that ability,
32:14 grab a department budget,
32:16 have that ability,
32:17 and then two times a year review.
32:19 I think one of the nuances that I find,
32:21 and I’m speaking to myself only,
32:22 and I don’t know what other issues,
32:24 but a lot of times we’re looking for something in a budget
32:26 that might be like an exorbitant,
32:28 I don’t know,
32:29 training that took place,
32:30 and it was in California,
32:32 and it costed this for $50,000.
32:34 I’m just throwing out an example here.
32:36 It doesn’t,
32:37 the budget isn’t necessarily going to tell you that,
32:39 you know,
32:40 all it’s going to say is like a travel,
32:41 continuing education,
32:42 it’ll lump it into a strand,
32:44 but it doesn’t give you what the actual money to spend on.
32:47 And so,
32:48 I think that’s a great starting place,
32:50 yes,
32:51 but I don’t think it’s going to answer a lot of the questions,
32:52 I think it’s still going to end up,
32:53 that you’re going to have to dig deeper,
32:54 to find out what it is that you’re concerned about,
32:56 or that you,
32:57 even if somebody has brought to your awareness,
32:58 that you have an issue with.
33:00 So what you’re saying,
33:01 I agree with,
33:02 that there’s a conference that everybody goes to from a specific
33:07 school.
33:08 I think we all understood what you’re saying.
33:10 That would be reflected into the budget that they have.
33:13 It’ll just go to strand,
33:14 it’s just going to go for continuing education,
33:16 or it’s going to go for whatever the case,
33:17 but it’s not going to show.
33:18 We do have that.
33:19 It will say exactly the actual expenditure,
33:24 the total amount.
33:25 It won’t,
33:26 you’re not going to just see,
33:27 just the actual budgetary like bucket.
33:31 Okay.
33:32 You’ll see a breakdown of all of those.
33:34 So it won’t be that you just see one thing,
33:36 it’s fish, cows, and dogs.
33:38 We actually already have access to something more specific.
33:42 If you’re checking on those,
33:44 we get month-a-month-ish from procurement.
33:47 We get the report that we asked for,
33:49 that was the, anything under…
33:52 The director of the superintendent.
33:53 The superintendent.
33:55 And that,
33:56 and that is schools or departments.
33:58 So if a school rent a venue for Tom,
34:02 and they spend over $5,000,
34:04 I mean, you know,
34:05 I’m picking something.
34:06 It actually says this school is a vendor,
34:09 you know,
34:10 or if we hire a musician,
34:12 somebody to come in,
34:13 a clinician or whatever,
34:15 you know,
34:16 anything like that.
34:17 That’s on there specific,
34:18 which I think would get to,
34:19 like if it was a training,
34:20 it gets more specific.
34:22 And you look at that.
34:24 And it helps out with school.
34:26 Yeah, it does.
34:27 And I appreciate that that’s coming through every month.
34:30 But one of the things I think here right now,
34:33 when we’re talking about budget constraints,
34:34 and that’s obviously a big area of conversation
34:36 for pretty much everybody in state of Florida.
34:38 I think it’d be wise for our district
34:40 to take a strong stance on saying,
34:41 hey, no more travel outside the state of Florida.
34:43 If you’re going to do any kind of continuing education,
34:45 you’re going to stay here in Florida,
34:46 you’re not going to go elsewhere.
34:47 Because those trips get very, very expensive.
34:49 And we’re talking about airfare and hotel
34:51 and conference expenses.
34:53 And I know that that may not become very popular
34:55 and people might be upset about that.
34:56 But if you don’t have money, you don’t go travel.
34:59 You stay where you’re at.
35:00 And so we need to find a way to bring that resource there
35:02 and figure out an online journey.
35:04 That’s my personal opinion on that.
35:05 I don’t know where the board will land on that.
35:07 But that’s–
35:08 I appreciate it.
35:09 Thank you, Mark.
35:10 I know.
35:11 I understand that.
35:12 Believe me.
35:13 I understand that.
35:14 Across the state, there are many districts
35:16 that have locked down travel recently.
35:17 And Dr. Ndell did a great job of pulling our summit
35:21 at the end of the year to make sure that happens here.
35:23 I understand instead of making a blanket policy.
35:28 Obviously, the superintendent controls the day-to-day
35:32 expenditures
35:32 of the budget.
35:33 And so him knowing that we’re trying to cut back,
35:36 he obviously is leading the charge on that.
35:38 I would just hate to tie the district’s hands
35:41 and say that we’re not doing it.
35:42 I’m making a blanket policy.
35:43 We’re not doing something to come up that is beneficial.
35:47 But right now, we would be able to–
35:49 Or maybe the board has approved it.
35:51 I don’t know.
35:52 I’m just–
35:53 We already do, don’t we?
35:54 I mean, don’t we already approve out-of-state travel?
35:56 For students, not for staff.
36:00 And so, again, I’m not taking people to office,
36:02 but I’m just saying.
36:04 And right now, I’m sure there’s things
36:05 that are lined up for this summer.
36:06 So maybe this is something moving forward that we say,
36:08 hey, starting next school year, we stay in the state.
36:11 We’re working on tightening down every expenditure
36:15 we possibly have.
36:16 That’s one that we have identified that is expensive,
36:18 possibly some substantial money.
36:20 And so, we want to see that we’re getting good students there.
36:23 I don’t know if they’re working on that.
36:25 So we had that conversation last summer,
36:27 actually last spring, heading into this year.
36:31 And so we reduced travel costs by 20% last summer.
36:37 What was the total overall travel costs?
36:39 I don’t know.
36:40 Okay.
36:41 I think that’s why it weren’t for the board
36:42 knowing what are the total expenses for travel district-wide
36:45 because that’s going to be a number that would probably –
36:49 It’s a lot smaller.
36:51 Okay.
36:52 All right.
36:53 Well, I’m curious about the numbers.
36:54 And maybe if it is, then, okay, could we continue on?
36:58 Yeah.
36:59 My thought process is we are saying that we don’t have money for
37:03 all these things.
37:03 And the other one that was kind of started with at the last four
37:08 meetings.
37:09 And the numbers to me was our school board member budget that we
37:13 received,
37:13 which I believe, Lena, $7,500.
37:15 Is that correct for each member?
37:17 This year.
37:18 This year, $7,500, right?
37:19 And so –
37:20 Because memberships went out.
37:21 Right.
37:22 Because memberships to the FSBA for each one sitting here is
37:24 over $5,000 per person to be a part of FSBA,
37:27 which I’ve offered out of.
37:29 And, again, I understand why people did that and their advocacy
37:32 there.
37:33 But my frustration is when I look at the board and I say, hey, I
37:37 want to spend $200 to send 40 kids that are in ROTC to Patrick’s
37:42 Space Force Base,
37:42 and I’m getting pushback for taking it out of that money and
37:45 going, wait a minute.
37:47 That seems absolutely absolute to me.
37:49 And the union’s over there going, we’ll pay for it, we’ll pay
37:51 for it.
37:52 And I’m like, okay, you know, of course.
37:54 And so that’s where you’re just like, this is a common sense
37:56 thing.
37:57 So I think that there needs to be some leniency there.
38:00 Now, I’m not even saying the board – they can come before the
38:02 board to approve it, but the board as a whole should look at
38:05 that and go, that makes perfectly good sense.
38:07 So if you’re student-based and sending kids somewhere right here
38:10 in Brevard Valley, using our own resources,
38:12 and you’re not spending that money by being a part of FSBA, why
38:15 not send $200 on that?
38:17 I think we’re going to talk about that, really personally.
38:19 Okay.
38:20 All right.
38:21 Well, I’m just, again, I’m voicing my frustration with that one
38:23 because that one tracks me beyond my belief.
38:25 On the line, this is crazy.
38:26 This is 100% focused towards students and their education.
38:30 And that should be the number one priority.
38:32 Academic should be the number one priority.
38:34 So the board I’m just asking, you want to be looking back and
38:36 talk about that.
38:37 Think about that long and hard.
38:38 If you’re not spending the money elsewhere on a membership or
38:41 something, or maybe evaluating what is the membership costing
38:45 for the district.
38:45 I mean, how much are you receiving from that membership?
38:48 Those are things that you have to weigh into when we are a part
38:50 of something.
38:51 So.
38:52 Well, on that topic, I mean, we’re going to have a conversation
38:54 a bit later about how we inform you.
38:56 But on the topic of FSBA, we, it’s, there’s more than just the
38:59 weekly emails that we’re getting.
39:02 FSBA, and I’ll give you one example is, through our membership
39:05 in FSBA, we have advocates, we have lobbyists.
39:08 And this board did not put together a platform this year.
39:11 We had a couple of requests.
39:12 We made platform suggestions to FSBA’s platform.
39:15 We made a couple of suggestions to the consortium’s platform.
39:18 We did not put that particular platform.
39:20 But on our behalf, there were multiple people who worked for FSBA.
39:24 We were working on our behalf on all these bills that are coming
39:27 down and on the state budgets and things like that.
39:30 So, there’s, and we have used, in the past, we’ve used them for
39:33 our superintendent search.
39:35 So, we pay them for that.
39:36 That wasn’t a free service.
39:37 Right.
39:38 At this kind of rate, because, this is going to be short.
39:41 I’m going to be done.
39:42 But there’s a whole lot more of that.
39:44 So, you know, and the choice to be a member, not be a member, we’ve
39:48 opened it up.
39:49 So that if you wanted to join another association, that’s fine.
39:52 We can have a conversation later about what kind of briefing may
39:54 happen.
39:55 But I have to say, whatever we don’t use in that membership
40:01 budget absolutely can be student-focused.
40:04 Because if we don’t use money, just like any other department
40:06 that doesn’t use their money at the end of the year,
40:09 and it gets put, you know, it gets moved into next year’s budget
40:12 or whatever,
40:13 that is money that we can use for one-time student expenditures.
40:16 We can use for, you know, bonuses.
40:18 We can use for whatever we need.
40:19 It is not a matter of your – we can have the freedom to do
40:23 these little one-off projects,
40:25 or we can focus – and that’s student-focused.
40:28 But if we don’t do that, then we’re not student-focused.
40:30 I don’t accept that as an argument.
40:31 So, again, I’m not wanting to go into it that much.
40:34 But the idea of being a part of FSBA, part of being a good board
40:39 member is making you better able to serve students.
40:42 And there’s a lot of wisdom that I know personally that I’ve
40:46 gained over the last eight years, seven and a half,
40:50 from being part of that association, being able to reach out to
40:53 people at any point in time and say,
40:55 “Hey, we got this going on in the bar, help.
40:58 How do I handle this situation?”
41:00 And I always get a phone call back from people who are on staff
41:04 and we are paying,
41:05 you know, through our dues, or fellow board members.
41:07 There’s just a lot outside of conferences and things like that.
41:10 There’s fear around things that help people be a better board
41:13 member.
41:14 And honestly, I think people who took more advantage of that can
41:17 be even better board members.
41:19 So, I’m just going to have to love that.
41:22 Yeah, and Ms. Campbell, thank you for the overview.
41:24 I don’t think Ms. Wright was saying that we shouldn’t be members
41:27 of that.
41:28 I think her point was that she had validations of funding that
41:31 she would like to put towards some of her other items.
41:34 And I think they would have that conversation on the 31st.
41:36 And that’s my biggest favorite for them.
41:38 The leniency they are on.
41:39 And the membership that I’m not, this isn’t a knock to FSBA.
41:42 My biggest knock to FSBA is the expense that it costs the school
41:44 district.
41:45 That’s my biggest issue with them.
41:46 But it costs a lot of money for each one of us to sit there.
41:49 And while you utilize it and you take advantage of it, and I’m
41:51 glad that you do,
41:52 I think the back can be set of trees for everybody that sits on
41:54 the boards,
41:55 whether it’s here or around the state of Florida.
41:57 So you go, “Okay, is that the best and high is the best use of
42:00 the expense?”
42:01 I don’t know, is it?
42:02 I don’t know.
42:03 And not to mention, like you said to me, we did, yes, we have
42:06 them for our hiring of our superintendent.
42:09 We paid them an expense for that.
42:11 That wasn’t a free service that they provided.
42:13 And as far as the lobbyists go, we were paying lobbyists also.
42:16 So you’re like, okay, I’m just saying if we’re looking at this
42:19 in a true nature of where can we save money,
42:24 that’s one area where I felt confident, saying I’m okay with
42:26 saying I will not spend the money there.
42:28 But at the same sense, if you want to take the $200 and spend it
42:31 towards, and trust me, next time I’m like,
42:33 I will just find someone that will properly write that check and
42:35 I will not bring it up.
42:36 And that’s not the direction of the board, but I think that’s
42:38 the conversation that needs to be handled out.
42:40 Just so the board knows, on top of the way that it used to work
42:44 was, on top of being able to utilize your funds for things like
42:48 that.
42:49 Or also, Ms. Estivich did not use the health care system that we
42:53 have.
42:54 I don’t use the health care system either.
42:56 So what they did was, they allocated the amount of money,
42:58 because when you go to the true board budget,
43:01 it breaks it down by how much your salary is, how much your
43:04 health care is,
43:05 how much of this funding that we’re speaking of it is, and they
43:08 didn’t have worked.
43:09 I’m doing it, which I haven’t done it because we’re not, we can’t
43:11 qualify for it.
43:13 You can’t perform your duties, you’re going to be safe.
43:16 You know what I mean?
43:17 So those were the buckets before.
43:18 Yeah.
43:19 And what she had successfully done was that said, hey, look, I
43:22 don’t spend health care.
43:23 So because I don’t do that, can you add that to my file?
43:26 And she did.
43:27 And she did what you’re talking about, which was go outside.
43:31 I actually talked to her a couple of days ago because I wanted
43:33 to ask about the conversation regarding the money,
43:37 which was one-time funds that came from, I put this out there
43:41 because we need some historical perspective.
43:44 It was one-time funds, I believe it was around the time we were
43:47 losing those federal funds.
43:49 The kids have to fill out the forms and say we have federal
43:51 property.
43:52 And then that Altman fought and fought, and I know A&C was a big
43:54 part of that, trying to fight for getting that back.
43:57 And so we got that back, we were getting that money.
43:59 But the budget, it’s my understanding, and I was also going to
44:02 talk to Lucy Belfer to see,
44:04 because I haven’t been able to talk to her yet.
44:07 That it was one-time funds because we got those federal funds
44:10 but the budget had already been set.
44:14 And so they divided up among the board members to do mostly
44:18 capital projects.
44:20 And so that, again, that was a one-time thing.
44:23 It wasn’t a recurring, every year the board members get to use
44:25 this money for, you know, their pet project funds.
44:31 We were able to use it for pet project funds.
44:33 It was one year, that’s what I stated.
44:34 It was one year in the past because it was absolutely, and it
44:37 was time for that.
44:39 But anyway, we’ll have that discussion on 31st.
44:41 Everybody, moving on.
44:43 One of the things, moving in the process discussion, one of the
44:46 things we have is committee reports.
44:48 So right now, we all attend committees, right?
44:51 And thank you, Ms. Campbell, for doing the Central Florida
44:55 School Board Coalition.
44:57 And what I would like to do is set up a system where if we do
45:01 attend something,
45:02 that we bring whatever those materials are and send them out to
45:05 the rest of the board on a regular basis.
45:08 Now, I’m guilty of this.
45:09 And there’s no other people maybe, but if we attend like the
45:12 League of Cities,
45:13 we just know that we request the documentation to send those
45:15 reports,
45:16 say, “Hey, here’s what we’re definitely going to see,” and stuff
45:18 like that.
45:19 I think that we all go there, and we all kind of know some of
45:22 the things,
45:23 but I would like to sort of a formal process of if we attend a
45:26 meeting that we regularly are appointed for,
45:30 and then we go ahead and at the end of that meeting, we receive
45:33 a presentation or something like that
45:35 that we can share that.
45:36 It’s really easy.
45:37 I think we can get started.
45:38 It’s actually like a board reporter.
45:39 So you’re asking us, so do you want us to do in the board
45:43 meetings?
45:44 Can we have our recognition and board reports, or would you
45:47 rather just send that a new email?
45:49 I think you send that a new email and say, “Hey, I just attended
45:51 this,” and then on the board reports,
45:53 the next part that we’re going to talk about is the power of
45:55 reports.
45:56 We actually say those, so if Ms. Lena knows that you were
46:00 attending because she has all of our calendars,
46:03 that she might add that to the board reports that you know to
46:05 give that update.
46:07 That’s all.
46:08 It’s more of a formal process, just in that way, tightening up
46:11 what we’re doing.
46:12 The next thing is that inside of your agenda, you have under
46:16 materials, kind of an overview,
46:19 if you have it inside of there.
46:21 This is something that Dr. Adele doesn’t do.
46:24 But again, I’m just trying to formalize it.
46:26 Everything that we talk about right now is about the occasion of
46:30 what we’re speaking about.
46:31 I’m going to formalize it into the document that says these are
46:33 the processes in the public school.
46:37 So this is already at the time we can just go through exactly
46:40 how we did it already.
46:42 So when the Tuesday at 14:00 is out, it’s a 2:00 to 4:00.
46:47 And then next Friday, 11 days out, you guys can use an e-mail
46:52 reminder to the Friday report
46:54 that says, “Hey, if there’s anything you guys wish to pull,
46:57 if there’s anything you guys wish to discuss or anything like
46:59 that,
47:00 please take a look.”
47:01 And remind you, don’t come out on Friday or 11 days out.
47:05 And then Monday, which is 8 days before, when we have our one-on-one
47:09 sessions,
47:10 after you talk to Dr. Adele, if there’s something that you would
47:13 want to pull off the board,
47:14 you can signify that by then.
47:16 If you have any opportunity, there’s a, “I’ve reviewed.
47:20 I’ve spoken to Dr. Adele, and now I’m going to pull it off the
47:22 agenda.”
47:23 That’s everything you already did.
47:25 There’s not a single thing that we’re talking.
47:28 It’s just, I want to formalize it and put it down.
47:30 It’s going to happen in some sort of time.
47:32 And then the next day, it gets published through the agenda of
47:35 the public.
47:36 And then that Friday, what I’ve asked is, when I’ve reviewed the
47:40 agenda seven days out,
47:42 I’ve asked you to not add anything to the agenda to throw you
47:45 guys off.
47:46 But instead, on that Friday, you know, we’ll go out to the board
47:50 of any of the additions that they have.
47:52 You’ll look at those and tell us if there’s any of them that you
47:56 object to.
47:57 And if I could get those objections by Monday, you may have to
48:00 use medical conference.
48:02 That was perfect.
48:03 Sorry, just real fast.
48:05 What’s it saying on Friday, just the administrative
48:07 recommendation?
48:08 No, it’s, it’s, that’s being sent to the board.
48:11 But any other changes to the agenda, additions or subtractions,
48:15 will go to you guys on Friday.
48:17 You’re saying this is going to be, you’re proposing this is
48:19 going to be the policy.
48:21 So like the other day, I pulled something that it wasn’t
48:23 planning on pulling in.
48:25 Like something came up within this eight day window that I want
48:27 to pull something that we don’t have that flexibility.
48:29 All that flexibility in the world.
48:31 All I’m trying to do is, is kind of organize it.
48:34 So what happens is, is when it comes to my agenda on that
48:37 Tuesday, you have every right to pull.
48:40 Like you can immediately go ahead and say, hey, I want to pull
48:42 this.
48:43 I want to do it.
48:44 What we’re doing is, is creating a time period.
48:46 Because during that time, sometimes, not all the time, very
48:49 rarely, staff is adding things to the calendar.
48:52 Right?
48:53 So what I was saying is, for me, what ends up happening is, I
48:56 check it one day.
48:57 I want to check it for three or four days.
48:59 And then all of a sudden, there’s something else on there.
49:01 So just saying, hey, whatever recommendations they are, let’s
49:06 freeze the calendar until that Friday.
49:08 We will put it out.
49:10 So that comes out on Friday.
49:12 Then we all look at it.
49:13 We meet with Dr. Rendell one more time.
49:15 And we say, hey doc, listen, I’ve got an issue here.
49:19 I like this.
49:20 I’m going to try to add it.
49:21 Whatever that is.
49:22 And then right after that, we successfully knock out whatever it
49:24 is.
49:25 So there’s something that three board members or Dr. Rendell
49:28 says, hey, I don’t want this on the board agenda.
49:31 Then we’ll pull it before it comes.
49:33 And we’ll have that for discussion.
49:35 Does that make sense?
49:37 When you say pull, I think you’re talking about pulling it off
49:39 the agenda as a whole.
49:40 Not the same as what you’re talking about, which is pulling it
49:43 from the consent into a separate vote.
49:45 Oh, right.
49:46 Absolutely.
49:47 Right?
49:48 No, absolutely.
49:49 I’ve got a good question.
49:50 Are you publishing on Tuesdays or Wednesdays?
49:53 She does on Tuesday nights.
49:54 Most of the nights, I try to get it in on Tuesday nights.
49:57 But sometimes you’re waiting for a document.
50:00 Right.
50:01 And so when I get to work on Wednesday morning, which is usually
50:04 6:30, 6:45, I’ll push right then.
50:07 And I’ll have that document on there.
50:09 Because that’s technically seven days out.
50:10 I just– the flexibility of–
50:12 Because we have till midnight on the seven days ahead of time.
50:17 I’m not up till midnight.
50:18 I’m not waiting for that document till midnight.
50:21 But with all that said, she should no longer have to wait until
50:24 midnight on Tuesday for anybody making decisions.
50:27 We should be able to meet with Dr. Rendell, make those decisions.
50:30 She should have all day Tuesday to be a public meeting.
50:32 And we have a formal process.
50:33 That’s it.
50:34 I didn’t tell you.
50:35 I’d love to hear Dr. Rendell has any thoughts about it.
50:42 I’m fine with this.
50:43 And I very much would appreciate the email.
50:45 Because when we had–
50:47 What did we have before?
50:48 In the bus?
50:49 We would at least get which item was updated.
50:54 But we also would get a, this is what was added, deleted, and
50:58 the new software.
50:59 There’s a lot of benefits to it.
51:00 But it doesn’t tell me what’s changed, when it changed.
51:03 Because I only wanted to go back and see the things that was
51:04 different.
51:05 That’s right.
51:06 I didn’t want to see the whole thing again.
51:07 So anything that was updated since the last, you know, that
51:11 would be stopped.
51:12 Yes, absolutely.
51:13 That would be very good.
51:14 And just so you guys know, this is what we technically do
51:16 already.
51:17 But a little bit more of an organization.
51:20 Yeah.
51:21 If all of a sudden we find that there’s something that’s a mess
51:22 about it, and we’re like giving
51:25 a change, it’s going to change.
51:26 It’s not that this is all of a sudden going through the law.
51:29 But it’s just good to start right.
51:30 You know what I mean?
51:31 Are you okay with this?
51:32 Oh, yeah.
51:33 No, I love this.
51:34 During birth.
51:35 Any problems?
51:36 No.
51:37 I think I just want to clarify what Lena mentioned that
51:41 sometimes she’s waiting on a document.
51:44 So not necessarily waiting on a board to get back, but waiting
51:47 on a document or something
51:48 to be added late Tuesday.
51:51 So she gets it late Tuesday.
51:52 And it’s after she left the work at home.
51:53 Right.
51:54 Those are fine.
51:55 Those don’t happen.
51:56 That’s just me.
51:57 Next day morning.
51:58 Yep.
51:59 Okay.
52:00 So we went through the process.
52:01 So one of the things that we talked about is right now is that
52:04 we’re working on updating
52:12 the procurement process.
52:13 I think Mr. Thomas, you’ve had some input into that.
52:16 I may sit and put into it, not that this is for formal
52:19 discussion or anything like that.
52:21 We’ll bring it back and we can talk through it.
52:24 But, you know, and I would like to do anything over a million
52:29 dollars has to be looked at.
52:33 So one of the problems we have, and this is, again, you just
52:36 suggested, and this will bring
52:38 back to you later today, is that before our healthcare ended on
52:41 our property, the consultant
52:44 that oversaw the actual stuff was the one that did the art piece.
52:48 The problem with that is that the consultant would make
52:51 commissions on a back-end bonus thing
52:54 for anything that they wrote.
52:55 Okay?
52:56 So that’s the healthcare piece.
52:57 That is no longer.
52:58 We just made that out.
52:59 That’s great.
53:00 We just made that out.
53:01 That’s great.
53:02 The other problem we had was that we were constantly getting
53:05 renewals at the board meeting
53:08 that was right before the real estate.
53:10 So it means that we had no chance of changing, and we wouldn’t
53:13 even see it until like 10 days
53:15 before the actual rental date, which means they would do that on
53:18 purpose.
53:19 So healthcare, that’s done.
53:21 We’re good at that.
53:22 Moving forward to the property side three years ago, and if you
53:25 remember that really rude
53:27 lady that came in from Gallagher and was speaking during the
53:30 renewal, but she was kind
53:31 of disrespectful and asking, like, why we’re asking questions.
53:35 I said I did not want to have the property renewal or any of
53:39 these large renewals come right
53:40 before the date.
53:41 Where we have property renewal as of April 4th, 31st, and right
53:46 now we’re going to have
53:47 that on our agenda assembly early March 31st.
53:50 So the idea is that I would like to, in the future, talk about
53:53 getting those ahead of the
53:55 time that it would take if we did not like that to go out there.
53:59 And there’s a reason why this property one is very important for
54:03 that kind of conversation.
54:05 I’ll bring up the board meeting.
54:07 Just as if this is where my thought was on this piece, just to
54:10 get to let you know.
54:12 But the procurement process I did want to let you guys know is
54:14 being worked on right now.
54:16 So if you have any input, I think the conversation goes through.
54:20 Of course, you’re not going to know.
54:21 But then Sue can.
54:22 And then they will get to Mr. Collins.
54:25 Okay, so procurement is actually under operation.
54:27 So I’m not Sue.
54:29 We actually asked RSM to add this to their current internal
54:33 audit.
54:34 So they’re going to be auditing our procurement process.
54:37 So that should yield us recommendations, if any, to change our
54:42 processes.
54:43 So if you guys have something outside of the orders and it wants,
54:47 get them over your right.
54:49 Yeah, I agree with this.
54:50 We’ve seen times where we’re approving contracts.
54:52 Sometimes they’re dated or it’s after the date.
54:56 The contract has lapsed.
54:57 And so that is not good practice at all.
55:00 But we don’t need to be continuing to do that.
55:02 And I think, honestly, anything that comes up, there should be
55:04 something within procurement
55:05 that triggers a notification that says, hey, 90 days this
55:09 contract comes up.
55:10 It needs to be more than really 30 days because if they’re
55:12 passing out for competitive bidding,
55:14 that’s a process and not taking time.
55:15 So like 90 days should probably be the window of when a contract
55:18 is coming up.
55:19 What are we doing?
55:20 Is it getting extended or renewed?
55:22 Or is it going back out for bids on all fronts?
55:25 I think, honestly, that’s my personal opinion.
55:27 I think it would be helpful for me in this conversation.
55:30 And maybe Mr. Hines could give us a refresher.
55:33 We did that workshop a couple years ago about the procurement
55:35 process.
55:36 We actually did it less than a year ago before we do it.
55:39 I don’t need another workshop.
55:41 I think my question is specifically on the renewal part.
55:44 Because my thought is, okay, if we set the insurance question
55:50 aside, but for most of our contracts,
55:54 if we know we set a three-year contract and it’ll have like two
55:57 one-year renewals or something like that.
56:00 If whoever the vendor is, the contract with, is doing a really
56:03 good job or getting really good service
56:06 and they want to do those two renewals, which they have every
56:08 right to because that’s the way we set it up.
56:10 And so we’re just approving these rules.
56:11 I don’t want to put an additional barrier in the way of us if we
56:15 already know because the known is we’re getting good service.
56:19 We put it back out.
56:20 Could we possibly get a cheaper price?
56:22 Maybe.
56:23 Maybe not.
56:24 But maybe we’ve locked in a good price and we want to do that.
56:26 We want to put an extra barrier in there.
56:27 But one question that you can answer for us is, is there
56:30 something, do they go out, obviously not to the whole process
56:35 again,
56:35 but do they just kind of scope out a little bit and go, is there
56:38 a possibility on those renewals, you know, in the market?
56:43 Is there better something out there maybe?
56:46 Because I think that would make us feel better about the…
56:48 Yeah.
56:49 So one of the reasons we switched to board docs, you know, and
56:53 now it’s diligent.
56:54 Right.
56:55 Is because you could then search all the other districts, board
56:57 docs, to see their contracts and see if they were getting
57:01 something at a cheaper price or a better deal.
57:03 So Sean can do that with diligence.
57:04 He’s still allowed to move.
57:05 It enables us to do that.
57:06 We couldn’t in the old systems because we weren’t in the system.
57:07 Right.
57:08 So that being part of the same system that almost every district
57:15 is in, we look at all their contracts and see if it could give
57:17 that a better deal.
57:21 Including other government agencies.
57:22 So, yeah, Sean did a presentation at the outside of middle
57:24 school, VR middle school.
57:26 Yeah.
57:27 I think that was about a year ago.
57:28 Thank you.
57:29 Yeah.
57:30 Maybe more than a year ago.
57:32 But you can, you know, talk about just the renewal process if
57:36 you want.
57:37 But again, I’m very comfortable that RSM’s going to dig in and
57:40 look at our process.
57:42 And they can tell us if there’s some things we’re doing
57:45 inefficiently and we could do better.
57:48 Would you anticipate that they’ll have completed their review?
57:51 So they’ll have it done by the end of fiscal year.
57:54 So that’s why I want.
57:57 And also we’ll send a bill that’s open for you guys to contact
58:00 them and review what they’re doing in the process.
58:04 But one thing they don’t want is to come forward with a
58:06 recommendation and a still different direction.
58:09 So if they’ve always been to contact them.
58:14 And you say, hey, we’d like to discuss this.
58:16 And so if you would like .
58:18 That’s crazy.
58:19 To be clear, my request can be answered with an email.
58:21 Okay.
58:22 All right, okay.
58:23 And then in that regard, Ms. Campbell, one of the things he was
58:27 speaking about with the one-year extensions,
58:31 they still should come before the board is enough time.
58:34 Because we’ll give you an example.
58:37 Our former health program was that the short-term disability
58:42 come up at a different time.
58:45 So that when the renewal for the accident curriculums and other
58:48 stuff came up,
58:49 they were able to give those to that specific program.
58:53 By then having the short-term disability, they were able to
58:56 anchor the savings if they could offset costs for the others.
59:00 It’s a game that insurance agents play, right?
59:03 So what I thought forward was, hey, let’s line those up so that
59:06 they all come out at the same time.
59:08 Having that ability and knowledge before the renewal pops on the
59:11 next, like, the time right before.
59:13 So I don’t think anybody disagrees with the yearly rules at all.
59:20 You’re 100% right.
59:21 They’re just basic formalities.
59:23 But there are some times where they might come up that we have
59:25 to put eyes on it before they go out.
59:27 All right, moving on to the member item request.
59:30 So in the past, and Ms. Campbell will probably remember this,
59:34 is we used to have a system where our member requests we would
59:37 put into,
59:38 we had a system built.
59:39 If you would put it in, it would then take it, and then it would
59:43 lock it in,
59:44 and it would say, “This member has requested. We all see it.”
59:47 And it gives timelines and stuff like that to remember that
59:49 document.
59:50 Yeah, it was a smart shape that they were doing.
59:53 I mean, you probably used it more than anybody else.
59:57 I did.
59:58 If you would have the request or whatever, I mean.
1:00:01 Okay, back on page.
1:00:03 You know, it’s fine.
1:00:07 To me, usually if I have a request, it’s an email.
1:00:11 Whoever it is, cabinet member responds to all of us.
1:00:14 We’re good.
1:00:15 I’ve not had a problem.
1:00:16 I just wanted to bring it up as an opportunity because basically
1:00:20 if you notice this,
1:00:21 this is all organizing what we do.
1:00:23 And so I wanted to see if you got one.
1:00:25 What it is is it was a program that John, if you wouldn’t type
1:00:28 it in,
1:00:29 it would send an email and it would go out to cabinet.
1:00:32 It would have it registered as this is what I said in my request,
1:00:36 basically.
1:00:37 And you would see all the requests.
1:00:39 Of course, yes, Ms. Campbell, I did have more than others.
1:00:42 But the thing is that they eventually were checked.
1:00:48 So they didn’t fall through the test, through the cracks.
1:00:51 I will tell you about that.
1:00:52 I know that’s a situation where my folks fall into the cracks.
1:00:56 I just wanted to bring it up as an opportunity that everybody
1:00:58 felt like we could bring it up.
1:01:00 I want to take a look at what we had before we can.
1:01:03 If you guys are good with what we have.
1:01:05 It was March.
1:01:09 We also, at the time, had Tammy who kept going.
1:01:12 She was a chigger with the fan of March.
1:01:15 I think you guys are just going to bring it up.
1:01:17 We had to struggle in that room with everything.
1:01:23 It doesn’t happen wherever it all happened.
1:01:25 All right.
1:01:26 So in the next piece is Suhan’s finance process.
1:01:29 We already talked about that.
1:01:31 Next up is a calendar review.
1:01:34 So what we did was, many of you know that some of the schools
1:01:37 that you go to, they don’t have their calendars updated.
1:01:40 They don’t have those kind of things.
1:01:42 We hear about events, but we’re not knowledgeable about them.
1:01:45 So what I asked was, I asked Ms. Lena to reach out to a handful
1:01:49 of schools to figure out a couple of test pilots
1:01:53 to figure out how we can get those to our calendars, right?
1:01:57 So Ms. Lena did a really good job of checking into the different
1:02:02 schools, and what we developed in the end was, is that for all
1:02:08 forward-facing community events,
1:02:10 they would, the districts would form a calendar that would sync
1:02:16 to our calendars specific to each group.
1:02:20 So say, for instance, Matt, Susan, Sun Tree Elementary District
1:02:24 4 says we have a Harvest Festival on November 8th.
1:02:28 They know that that Harvest Festival, when they put it into the
1:02:30 calendar, just needs to be added to our calendar.
1:02:33 Very easy.
1:02:34 It adds to our calendar, and then it populates to your calendar.
1:02:37 Does that make sense?
1:02:38 You, as an individual, can choose what you want on your calendar.
1:02:42 So, prior to the year, Ms. Lena would go to I-22 schools and say
1:02:47 anything that is facing the community, an event like an award
1:02:51 ceremony, a Harvest Festival, something like that.
1:02:54 If you could just add that to the calendar.
1:02:56 But it’s not getting published, it’s just getting added to our
1:02:57 calendar.
1:02:58 Correct.
1:02:59 Yep, yep.
1:03:00 Okay.
1:03:01 And for you, if you, like, look, I know my schools, I know
1:03:04 exactly where I am going to be, you don’t have to request this
1:03:07 at all.
1:03:08 It just gives us an opportunity to know what’s going on inside
1:03:10 of our local schools.
1:03:12 Just an opportunity.
1:03:13 And that’s, like, specific to each one of your calendars,
1:03:15 specific to each one of the things you do.
1:03:18 So, what would the process in this would be sometime in between
1:03:21 now and the end of the year, we would get with Ms. Lena and say,
1:03:25 “Hey, here’s what I would like to see on my calendar.”
1:03:28 And then at the beginning of the year, Ms. Lena, or maybe in
1:03:30 July or whatever, would reach out to the schools, tell them,
1:03:34 and then they would take a copy of that.
1:03:36 Very easy.
1:03:37 The next one is the school board calendar.
1:03:43 So, there’s a lot of items that we do that get populated to our
1:03:49 districts, or our sheets, like, two weeks in advance,
1:03:52 or when they call the next meeting.
1:03:54 So, for instance, we have audit committee meetings.
1:03:57 We have all of these different meetings that we have outside of
1:03:59 our regular school board meetings and our things.
1:04:03 What I would like to do is have a formal place that all of those
1:04:06 go to also.
1:04:07 So, that would be added to that other calendar that we have,
1:04:10 that we have.
1:04:11 We all receive an email that then populates onto our calendar,
1:04:14 if that makes sense.
1:04:16 What I would like to do is have it formally put in, by the way,
1:04:19 and when she receives it, too.
1:04:21 Does that make sense?
1:04:22 Yeah.
1:04:22 Does that make sense?
1:04:23 Yeah.
1:04:24 So, that we have.
1:04:25 I mean, when we think about all the events that we get invited
1:04:26 to, and they used to, I think
1:04:28 with him, it was the, she used to stick them on the calendar,
1:04:30 and that was just what that was.
1:04:32 But, we did invite to a lot of different things, and if it’s not
1:04:35 on the calendar, you’re not sending your email, or you’re in the
1:04:38 school visits, or you’re like, oh, did I get lost in the shuffle
1:04:41 somewhere, and it fell down.
1:04:42 It’s a formal process for like, all of the district-wide events
1:04:45 that are not school specific.
1:04:48 Right.
1:04:49 So, you have your, like, you have all of your studies.
1:04:53 Yeah.
1:04:55 Now, because this year, and I have already addressed it with a
1:04:58 couple of people, there are a couple of things that, like, we
1:05:00 didn’t get any information about the secondary science fairs,
1:05:04 the elementary people sent them to us.
1:05:05 And that’s, like, never happened before, because we’ve gotten
1:05:08 those elementary guys’ invitations to, here’s the award ceremony
1:05:13 for all of them, here’s where you can go to the mall and see the
1:05:15 project.
1:05:16 And for some reason, secondary fell through the cracks, also
1:05:19 didn’t get an invite to the secondary, the superintendent’s art
1:05:23 show, found out when I got his email.
1:05:26 So, yeah, there were a couple of things that fell through the
1:05:28 cracks.
1:05:29 But, yes, you’re right.
1:05:31 And for, like, the all-county concert, we do get an email here,
1:05:33 would you like the tickets, but they have those dates well in
1:05:36 advance.
1:05:37 So, you’re right.
1:05:38 If Lena could pull those, honestly, off of the LTP.
1:05:43 Well, the way it works, she doesn’t have to do it.
1:05:46 I have to rate it every minute.
1:05:47 No, no, no.
1:05:48 No, not necessarily.
1:05:49 So, just so you know, the way it would work is, I’ve been
1:05:53 working with Ms. Harris, Mr. Cheehan, and everybody else, they
1:05:57 would have that other calendar that their staff knows that they
1:06:00 have a district-wide event that they’re to put it to this
1:06:04 calendar.
1:06:05 And then that would automatically populate it.
1:06:08 We don’t want this women trying to chase down all these things.
1:06:11 Right.
1:06:12 Now, if they include me in the invites, I can’t put them right
1:06:14 on the calendar.
1:06:15 But, we want the responsibility to be on them, that if they’re
1:06:18 going to be putting it into a calendar, because I’m sure they’re
1:06:21 putting it in a calendar or something, that they also populate
1:06:24 it to ours.
1:06:25 What we would like them to do is go through, and at the end of
1:06:27 the year, there’s going to be a little bit of a checklist, but I’ve
1:06:30 asked each one of the department heads to put together a
1:06:33 checklist of all of the dates that we should receive information
1:06:36 on.
1:06:37 And then Ms. Lina will have a checklist all the way down, and
1:06:39 she can go through and say, “Oh, I don’t have this one,” and
1:06:42 reach out to them, so that we have them all checked in.
1:06:45 And this goes, this isn’t just those, but it also goes to the
1:06:49 district calendar, so like PM1, PM2, PM3, right?
1:06:54 We have our achievement data comes out.
1:06:56 Are you talking about things that are already on the district
1:06:58 calendar?
1:06:59 Some of those, yep.
1:07:00 On the website?
1:07:02 Yeah.
1:07:03 Some of the science cards and things like that are not there.
1:07:05 Right.
1:07:06 But for instance, the other piece to it is, is that we know that
1:07:11 during PM1, we’ll be doing these this week next year, right?
1:07:16 It’s really exciting for me to try to know that that’s coming
1:07:19 out, so that we could, and this also helps GCR, because GCR,
1:07:24 sometimes it’s not notified from our departments of things that
1:07:27 are happening.
1:07:28 They’ll know that our PM3 data is coming out.
1:07:31 We know that our PM3 data is going to be real good, so we can
1:07:34 set up an entire communications plan around them.
1:07:37 But what happens is that GCR can’t get that a month ahead of
1:07:39 time, then if they’re within a week, and they’re trying to deal
1:07:43 with whatever they’re dealing with there, it’s difficult for
1:07:44 them to come out with something.
1:07:46 So it will help us, and it will also help all of the other
1:07:48 departments organize, all along with GCR.
1:07:51 So now GCR will also have our calendars, so they’re going to
1:07:53 also have the school calendars and everything else.
1:07:56 So it’s made up with us as well.
1:07:58 And also time spent to avoid going into the school.
1:08:01 Yeah.
1:08:02 That’s right.
1:08:03 I thought that’s why you were right.
1:08:04 That’s right.
1:08:05 Yeah.
1:08:07 So the labs of the calendar battle is forced, right?
1:08:11 It’s an officer.
1:08:12 And, whoa.
1:08:13 I do not want all the sporting events on the calendar.
1:08:18 So completely understand.
1:08:20 So if you would take for instance, if you said, “I want my
1:08:22 district.”
1:08:24 Since the man only has one high school.
1:08:26 Yeah.
1:08:27 It might be a huge amount, right?
1:08:31 So we’re working through that on how to do it.
1:08:34 The first piece is, how the heck do we put all of the events on
1:08:37 calendars?
1:08:38 We do tabs on the calendars.
1:08:39 Yeah, we’re not even there yet.
1:08:41 But Mr. Robinson said that they’re already on calendars.
1:08:46 There’s a company that all of our coaches put the calendars to.
1:08:49 So you go to MaxPreps.
1:08:50 If you ever go to MaxPreps, they have all of our names on there.
1:08:53 Everything’s already organized.
1:08:54 So he’s looking to find a way that we might be able to have our
1:08:58 calendar set up.
1:09:00 Now, this piece, the sports calendar, is not only for us, but
1:09:04 for our community.
1:09:05 So what we want is, I hear from all of my, like, we have so many
1:09:10 former athletes,
1:09:11 former leaders in the community that just love to go to sports
1:09:13 games or events
1:09:16 like what you’re talking about with music and everything else.
1:09:19 They just would like to have something where they go and they
1:09:22 see all of these.
1:09:23 So that’s the last piece is developing some kind of calendar
1:09:26 that we may be able to go to
1:09:28 and the community may be able to go to that has these events for
1:09:32 sports
1:09:33 and some of those larger events that other people can attend.
1:09:36 That is a monster, but it’s doable.
1:09:39 We just need to get through it.
1:09:40 I just can’t help but think when you say this, what would solve
1:09:42 this?
1:09:43 Is that every school has stated their calendars on their
1:09:45 websites?
1:09:46 Or this would make it the easiest way to be able to grab the
1:09:49 information.
1:09:50 And part of this, it’s usually somebody who also has a lot of
1:09:54 other things right now.
1:09:56 But we give a stipend to every school.
1:09:58 So for instance, we give a stipend every school for somebody to
1:10:02 do exactly that.
1:10:03 Now it’s so minimal that if you told somebody, you’re going to
1:10:06 give a stipend,
1:10:07 they’ll probably give it back to you because the amount of work
1:10:10 it takes to count.
1:10:11 If there was a way, and I don’t know, this may be a future
1:10:18 conversation.
1:10:20 But you know how in Google calendars you can subscribe to a
1:10:25 calendar?
1:10:27 Right.
1:10:28 Like my kids band has a Google calendar and you can subscribe to
1:10:32 it.
1:10:32 And then all of a sudden all the band events just got pulled
1:10:34 into my Google calendar.
1:10:36 So we had something like that.
1:10:38 So if I, the board member, wanted all the athletic events, you
1:10:44 know,
1:10:44 I could be subscribed to or subscribe to this school’s calendar
1:10:48 and that school’s calendar.
1:10:49 But it’s kind of a choice.
1:10:50 So I mean, honestly, the athletic events are a lot easier to
1:10:54 find because of math prep.
1:10:56 But if someone wants to know, you know, when are the band
1:10:59 concerts, choir concerts,
1:11:00 those kind of things are a lot harder to find because there’s
1:11:04 not a statewide organization of them.
1:11:07 And I will tell you, so if I’m a citizen that lives in Melbourne
1:11:13 and I want to possibly go to a football game,
1:11:16 they don’t know the average citizen to go to math.
1:11:19 And that’s on us.
1:11:20 We should, and nor should they have to try to say, well,
1:11:23 there might be a website somewhere that I can go to and all that
1:11:25 stuff.
1:11:26 The idea would be, we find a, we figure this out, put it in a
1:11:30 central location.
1:11:31 It might have to be us.
1:11:32 It might be a third party that does this because they want to
1:11:34 advertise for district events.
1:11:36 They have to make work for it.
1:11:38 Figure that out and then allow the people, part of our legacy
1:11:40 folks and all of that,
1:11:42 to be able to be sent to our community that’s going to also be
1:11:44 kind of like .
1:11:47 You know, we, I think I was spoiling when I last spoke about
1:11:51 door, of course.
1:11:52 It was on their homepage.
1:11:53 It was today’s events.
1:11:54 Then if you click it, it went to the calendar of all of that
1:11:58 school’s events.
1:12:00 It was a Google calendar.
1:12:01 But it was, there was times I had to go to it, you know, certain
1:12:05 things.
1:12:05 But if the public do, today’s events, this week’s events, if you’re
1:12:09 going to board,
1:12:11 it would go to the big calendar of all the events of that school.
1:12:15 So, could you talk to, the idea is, well, sports is in progress.
1:12:25 Okay.
1:12:26 All right.
1:12:27 So, the next one is new board member guy.
1:12:31 Mr. Thomas and I are working on this.
1:12:34 I just wanted to kind of overview where we are, to see if there’s
1:12:37 anything that you feel needs to be added to it.
1:12:40 What we kind of bring it forward is a rough draft.
1:12:42 So, this is just so you know, the officials come in.
1:12:45 We all live in.
1:12:47 And then what happens is, which is the, what the heck is my goal?
1:12:50 What do I do?
1:12:51 Where do I go?
1:12:52 And it’s like a fireball, right?
1:12:54 So, what happens is, is that with all of these, we don’t, there’s
1:12:59 never been a four lines document that says, here’s what you
1:13:02 should do.
1:13:03 With that, every time somebody has it happen to them, we always
1:13:07 say, oh, we need to put something together.
1:13:09 So, I’m going to get it done.
1:13:11 So, these were some of the errors.
1:13:13 There was a line there once upon a time, but like, you didn’t
1:13:16 want to start from scratch.
1:13:19 Yeah, no.
1:13:20 The most helpful thing to me that we had to take out was the map
1:13:23 of ESF.
1:13:24 But then, I lost my mind, I didn’t give you another one because
1:13:27 it’s the security document.
1:13:29 And I’m like, you know, go to the red trash can.
1:13:32 I’m like, just depends on which way you’re coming.
1:13:34 Yeah.
1:13:36 It’s okay.
1:13:37 Lita’s always good to walk me to wherever.
1:13:38 I just wander around, and then I figure it out.
1:13:41 I’m like, oh, I’m just going to have some Bible text.
1:13:43 No, I just go in, there’s different doors, and I’ll walk through,
1:13:46 pass through, you know.
1:13:48 It’s the trash can.
1:13:49 You could do a little better than that.
1:13:50 Yeah.
1:13:51 The colored trash can.
1:13:52 So what I had was, hopefully, once we have these calendars set,
1:13:56 an explanation of how the calendars work.
1:14:01 We also have what the laws that overview and govern us as board
1:14:05 members.
1:14:07 Just so you guys know, I asked FSBA if they actually had one of
1:14:10 these documents that we could have to be board members.
1:14:14 And then somehow I got elected to put it together for FSBA.
1:14:17 So this is going to be FSBA.
1:14:19 Well, they probably have their training materials that they put
1:14:20 together for the new board member academy.
1:14:23 They don’t have it.
1:14:24 Which that’s a lot to.
1:14:25 Right.
1:14:26 They just don’t have a guide that says, here’s basically every
1:14:28 time you have a question, you could go here to try to figure out
1:14:31 who to ask or where to go.
1:14:33 So the laws that we’re doing, I think it’s very instrumental for
1:14:36 our new board members to understand the roles that we have based
1:14:40 upon what we have.
1:14:41 Because there’s some misconceptions over what you can and can’t
1:14:43 do as a board member.
1:14:44 I think that always gets us in trouble.
1:14:46 It doesn’t mean blackburns tell you that I was the biggest main
1:14:49 in the club for six months of my schoolwork career.
1:14:52 What?
1:14:53 Just the first?
1:14:54 What?
1:14:55 I was like, you know we’re going to give you a hard time.
1:14:56 Yeah.
1:14:57 Come on.
1:14:58 Listen.
1:14:59 You think I’m wet now.
1:15:01 We can’t let that slide.
1:15:03 Come on.
1:15:04 Okay.
1:15:05 So the laws that we’re doing.
1:15:06 Overviewing the sunshine laws also.
1:15:08 Because I think that some of that is part of the conversation.
1:15:11 Yeah.
1:15:12 The procurement laws.
1:15:13 You know, a lot of top offenders, stuff like that.
1:15:16 Board meeting, review.
1:15:17 How the process of the board will go quite frankly.
1:15:20 Like not show up if you like, you know, do your headlines.
1:15:23 And then process review for how the board speaks to Dr. Rendell.
1:15:28 How they speak to cabinet members, the requests, stuff like that.
1:15:32 These are some of the main topics.
1:15:34 And I did not have a map of ESF when I had that found on my list.
1:15:38 There are certain things that come up that as a new board member
1:15:47 you don’t know if it’s something that all board members are
1:15:49 going to.
1:15:49 Is it like making it, for instance, an audit committee?
1:15:52 Is that something that’s a must attend, a recommended attend?
1:15:56 What is required?
1:15:57 Yeah.
1:15:58 Because some people, you know, like from my situation, I have to
1:16:01 a lot of times prioritize between state jobs and the school
1:16:07 board.
1:16:07 And the school board to see when.
1:16:08 If it’s something that I’m not saying you want to attend
1:16:10 everything.
1:16:11 Because sometimes there are those things that you have to
1:16:13 prioritize.
1:16:14 And then when you want it, it must be events that are good to
1:16:17 know.
1:16:18 I would say that that is awesome.
1:16:19 So I’ll put that down.
1:16:20 Do you have anything you want to add?
1:16:21 No.
1:16:22 Where do you get a rough draft?
1:16:23 I mean, you have to be able to look at it.
1:16:25 You have to be able to say, hey, I do there.
1:16:27 I do not like this.
1:16:28 Here’s what we need to add.
1:16:29 But I just wanted to make sure.
1:16:30 We’re shooting for August.
1:16:32 Because we might have.
1:16:34 We might have.
1:16:35 People who are elected in August.
1:16:38 You know, some people get the three month run up.
1:16:40 Right.
1:16:41 Some of us only got a two week run up.
1:16:42 Yeah.
1:16:43 So either way.
1:16:44 If we have somebody who’s elected in August.
1:16:46 And at least by September, you can hand them.
1:16:49 Because I know you guys got three months.
1:16:52 I was always.
1:16:53 Y’all had time to.
1:16:55 To meet.
1:16:56 After all of it.
1:16:57 Yeah.
1:16:58 Right.
1:16:59 But I was laughing at my first work meeting.
1:17:00 Because I wasn’t officially until November.
1:17:02 Right.
1:17:03 It’s fun to the moment with something doing me.
1:17:05 I’m like, well, print me off everything.
1:17:06 That was my first work.
1:17:07 The packet of paper was this thick.
1:17:09 Like it was that much stuff that I’d go through every time.
1:17:11 Right.
1:17:12 You can’t look at it visually.
1:17:13 Because you didn’t have access to it.
1:17:14 Until you were officially.
1:17:15 Yeah.
1:17:16 You know, sworn in.
1:17:17 But yeah.
1:17:18 So I think.
1:17:19 To that note.
1:17:20 I think by the end of April.
1:17:21 I’ll bring this forward.
1:17:22 So that by the time we go away in the summer.
1:17:24 We have a working document that is solid and pretty.
1:17:25 The goal would be yes.
1:17:26 That if somebody is elected in August.
1:17:27 That they’re able to see kind of processes and be ready.
1:17:28 Or if they’re elected in November.
1:17:29 That they can review it.
1:17:30 One of the other things I have on here is that they need.
1:17:31 It’s really a written small group.
1:17:32 That they need with each one of us.
1:17:33 Individually.
1:17:34 Prior to like Christmas.
1:17:35 And Paul and I have talked about this before.
1:17:36 All can be scheduled meetings.
1:17:37 Where there are two of us.
1:17:38 And they’re going to be scheduled meetings.
1:19:24 So since we’re kind of in that room real quick.
1:19:26 Since you’re talking about it.
1:19:28 We are in the process of one of the problems we have.
1:19:32 Is that all of our school board documents.
1:19:34 We have in the back room.
1:19:36 That is one of the craziest rooms I’ve ever seen at ESM.
1:19:38 And inside of it, we have documents that actually go back to
1:19:41 1900.
1:19:42 And so, oh yeah.
1:19:44 Like WJ Creole was a school board member in like 1920.
1:19:48 I read that.
1:19:49 We read that.
1:19:50 So what I’m going to do.
1:19:52 Is I’m going to work to digitize all of our old documents.
1:19:56 Before they become too old.
1:19:58 Falling.
1:19:59 Yeah.
1:20:00 They’re literally falling apart.
1:20:01 But we can say those.
1:20:02 Right?
1:20:03 In doing so, if we find that legal document.
1:20:06 That packet that you’re speaking to.
1:20:08 I think we can bring that forward.
1:20:10 My goal with this.
1:20:11 Was to basically summarize.
1:20:13 In a like five to ten page document.
1:20:16 Real quick.
1:20:17 With reference to go deeper if they want to.
1:20:20 That way they’re not.
1:20:21 Because if I got a point finder.
1:20:22 This thing.
1:20:23 I would have a .
1:20:24 Like links.
1:20:25 So you’re talking about like a digital document with links.
1:20:28 Well we can give some FAQ for.
1:20:30 You know.
1:20:31 For.
1:20:33 People and members.
1:20:34 And the reasons.
1:20:35 Start with.
1:20:36 The first thing they have to do is to go back and watch the last.
1:20:38 Like two or three four things.
1:20:39 That’s like.
1:20:40 A good starting point.
1:20:41 Well, I always recommend that people go and watch the November
1:20:45 meeting because it’s such a different thing. And honestly, my
1:20:52 first couple years, I would do that. I would go because we only
1:20:58 do it once a year. I would go back and watch the previous three
1:21:01 or four years, just the first 15 minutes.
1:21:03 You actually told me that. I did. I did. Go watch it so you knew
1:21:07 what the heck you’re about to do because it’s so awkward. And
1:21:11 the only way to tell you is for you to just go watch it yourself.
1:21:17 So I’m going through the history of the school board also. So
1:21:23 the goal would be to not only digitize all of our records,
1:21:27 but they also have a list of school board members going back in
1:21:30 what years all the way to the
1:21:32 inception school board i will tell you we engaged with the
1:21:34 supervisor collections because that’s an
1:21:36 area that we can find he gave me a link and this may know it
1:21:40 goes to 1980 and then indicated that
1:21:43 the rest of them are on micro beach so he’s going to start
1:21:46 trying to organize his micro beach to
1:21:49 get the old elections i offered for our students um at the arrow
1:21:53 high school to build a volunteer
1:21:55 time i’ve got a host of kids that are going to be working on
1:21:58 some of this stuff so you could go over
1:22:00 there and work with them so a real cool project um but even he
1:22:04 was saying this is a decent project
1:22:06 because some of his micro beach is turning into vinegar so you
1:22:10 know so you might lose some stuff
1:22:12 because you’re only legally obligated to keep the records for so
1:22:16 long so i also called the head of
1:22:18 the bar an old friend of mine so an old friend of mine
1:22:24 an old friend of mine named michael boonstro is who headed the
1:22:28 florida or the billard county historical
1:22:31 commission that is at the coco library um has now moved up to
1:22:34 like number three in the public library
1:22:37 system i spoke to him he’s going to work on getting us any
1:22:39 documentation that we need from because they
1:22:41 have all of the old articles going back to the early 1800s
1:22:45 inside there and so he’s going to put it
1:22:48 together now we used to have a group called the mosquito beaters
1:22:50 that i worked with on some of these
1:22:52 projects and i’m going to make a call and he was laughing
1:22:55 because he said it’s amazing because they’re
1:22:57 literally stopping their group this month and so i told him i
1:23:01 said well maybe we can tell them we got
1:23:03 something else for them to work on so just to give you guys that
1:23:06 was a historical project so if you hear
1:23:08 hear me hear things like what’s matt susan it’s a background
1:23:11 these things know that that’s the reason
1:23:14 there’s probably some historical society
1:23:16 there’s the florida historical society at the online library in
1:23:26 coco city coco village
1:23:30 then there’s the county library that had that coco that actually
1:23:34 has all the old library or all the
1:23:36 we can focus on the one that is in the library coco or the other
1:23:40 ones in the state my goal is to put
1:23:42 together the history of the whole county and superintendent
1:23:46 sorry about that okay um i wanted to try to set
1:23:51 another off site in august and kind of formalize three off site
1:23:59 meetings for a year type of thing so
1:24:00 that one we come in in december we talk about what all the new
1:24:03 initiatives are we talk to a new member
1:24:05 and that’s it whenever it is we come back in march to say here’s
1:24:08 where we are with those initiatives
1:24:10 and then once we start the school board meetings in august that
1:24:15 that we would kind of map um
1:24:17 completely flexible why are we here so is this for new members
1:24:23 or what no no just have three off sites
1:24:25 to say so the first one is in december is this is what we’re
1:24:28 trying to do the second one is here’s
1:24:31 where we are and in august when we’re back it’s here’s what we
1:24:36 did and um i think that helps i would
1:24:39 like to just say we need to check with people here to schedule
1:24:43 but i would like to formalize that into a
1:24:45 process so three time a year and then once we get the three
1:24:50 times that we can formalize an agenda that
1:24:54 we’ll have for each one of those but these are the core so
1:24:57 everybody knows we’re coming back in march to
1:25:00 review what we gave direction to in december i don’t know if
1:25:05 this is the time to say it but is there
1:25:08 going to be a place on this agenda for like new initiatives
1:25:11 where you are working yeah there’s new
1:25:12 businesses at the bottom okay um depending on how much you get
1:25:17 through um just because if let’s get
1:25:20 bring to these meetings that would be a working document that
1:25:23 because there’s stuff we come up with
1:25:26 right four months right through that over the course of the year
1:25:29 there’s new projects that come out
1:25:31 that you might want to be more aware of it’s just something that’s
1:25:33 yeah i will tell you dr indel
1:25:35 did not go over the line because we’re still there
1:25:39 all right um the joint um so as you guys know in the past i have
1:25:45 offered to try to set up some sort
1:25:47 of joint city right um that didn’t go over very well as far as
1:25:50 because coordinating and what we do and all that so
1:25:53 and all that so my vision would be this is that we as a group or
1:25:58 individually we go to our cities
1:26:01 have a formal meeting with the city councils of each one of the
1:26:04 cities in that meeting we would bring
1:26:06 our principles and stuff like that for an introduction we think
1:26:10 that there’s a disconnect in some of our
1:26:11 cities with some of the representatives at our schools and it’s
1:26:15 not because of anybody being a certain
1:26:17 way but sometimes the city official represents certain schools
1:26:20 does not go into it what i would like to do
1:26:23 is for instance the city of government we would sit down and
1:26:26 bring our principles and just do an
1:26:28 introduction here’s what we’re doing here’s what’s happening
1:26:31 inside your schools we would like you to
1:26:32 come to clap hands here because we have our calendar now is our
1:26:36 calendar for you guys to come to
1:26:39 here’s like a ceremonial keys to our schools kind of thing and
1:26:42 just kind of reform not talking about
1:26:45 any like like we’re going to do this this or this but i think it
1:26:49 would be well received um i would like to do
1:26:53 do it with the whole board but it may be more appropriate to
1:26:56 have individuals go that represent
1:26:58 the cities that’s it i would love it if it would be i mean if it
1:27:02 would be us kind of invading their
1:27:04 meetings for giving us like a 20 minute session if it could be
1:27:07 like a cheerleading time of here let’s
1:27:10 introduce you this is the first people of melbourne which also i
1:27:13 have um we’re gonna here’s the here’s
1:27:17 the principal melbourne high school here’s the principal of ogalley
1:27:20 high school technically here’s the principal of combat high
1:27:22 school
1:27:22 this in melbourne um here’s here’s some accolades for the
1:27:27 previous academic year um you know and it
1:27:31 bring down i mean all the way down to the elementary here’s some
1:27:34 events coming up we invite you to
1:27:35 participate in blah blah blah i mean i think that would be
1:27:38 fantastic no i think our biggest problem is
1:27:40 it’s going to be a lot of room control on tuesdays which is when
1:27:42 we have ours and so that’s going to be a
1:27:44 struggle we moved in the darks in the morning we did one one
1:27:48 meeting a month yeah in the morning and i will
1:27:50 tell you when we did this formally i went down because the board
1:27:54 did not want to do move forward with
1:27:56 this i went down and met with the city of palm bay over i got
1:27:59 pulled in i’m very connected to the haitian
1:28:02 community at home so they wanted to have a meeting right so we
1:28:05 officially had some collaborative meetings
1:28:08 so i brought some staff we worked on after school stuff and
1:28:11 everything else um gd kind of stuff but
1:28:14 it is a great opportunity for us and even if you as an
1:28:18 individual or like me and john or him or the city
1:28:22 of melbourne had to do it on an off cycle i think that they
1:28:25 would like to do that i don’t think they
1:28:27 would once a year have an objection to having a meeting if it
1:28:31 doesn’t line up with us to just sitting
1:28:33 down for an hour and meeting almost and i would feel very
1:28:36 positive about it to the point where we can
1:28:38 offer it to them and if they don’t take it that’s one thing but
1:28:41 like i think that they would take that
1:28:42 opportunity that’s all so if you guys are okay what if we know
1:28:45 ahead of time if the work is going to
1:28:47 in the future is going to continue to have an alternating
1:28:49 morning evening if we go ahead of time we can
1:28:51 work around if they’re always i mean very a lot of our cities
1:28:55 are going to meet once a month
1:28:56 yeah how do you envision the smaller cities like for instance
1:29:01 belmont beach has gemini elementary
1:29:03 you still wanted to do so i would i would go there and i would
1:29:07 say hey here’s
1:29:08 general gemini elementary school it’s even in those smaller ones
1:29:11 um melbourne beach is funny because
1:29:14 they do work real closely with them so let’s say they already
1:29:16 have a relationship okay it might be an
1:29:19 opportunity for us to kind of go to a um maybe at that point you
1:29:22 can talk about some of the other
1:29:23 stuff the district is doing too i don’t know particular to that
1:29:27 this is kind of the open
1:29:29 starting this i think that would be the secondary conversation
1:29:32 would be hey we’d be interested in
1:29:34 talking about gemini and some of the other things we’re doing
1:29:37 because gemini feeds into those other
1:29:38 um schools so like you may have a record kid that lives in melbourne
1:29:43 beach that also goes to melbourne i
1:29:45 think that’s where his district is sent to so you might want to
1:29:50 have chad kirk there to say hey i’m going to
1:29:51 where your kids go to high school and then talk about those
1:29:53 things you know they may not have such a
1:29:56 direct connection and then at that point they may say hey we
1:29:59 would really like to do this
1:30:00 can i suggest too that even in the meantime before we can set up
1:30:06 you know because we wouldn’t be able
1:30:08 to do all of them a year but a couple a year or whatever before
1:30:10 we can do that i mean gcr will
1:30:11 potentially help us set up asking some of our city councils hey
1:30:14 would you give one of our our board
1:30:16 members and one of our staff members a longer than a three
1:30:20 minute whatever just to present to you
1:30:22 what’s going on that are in the schools that are within the
1:30:26 county and we have appropriate staff to
1:30:28 come with us and they’ll give us um like we’ve done we’ve let
1:30:32 people come in and do presentations
1:30:34 about mentions things like that you know we also have the league
1:30:37 of cities that has our monthly
1:30:39 meeting and even if we did we got 15 minutes every meeting to
1:30:43 present absolute next number schools
1:30:45 so i used to do that but it was not official so every time they
1:30:49 had anything you know call them
1:30:50 they’re like hey this is what’s happening i would pop up and
1:30:53 speak for three or four minutes because
1:30:54 there was always something that you need to know about so i
1:30:57 think if you guys are okay with this as a
1:30:59 concept i’ll go back to gcr and say okay let’s formalize this
1:31:02 thing and bring it back to you guys
1:31:04 my goal would be to try to get somewhere and have a conversation
1:31:08 and try to do it for the beginning
1:31:10 of next year because there’s not enough time to run it up you
1:31:13 know what i mean okay all right so just
1:31:16 real quick um policy reviews so basically we have um i wanted to
1:31:28 put inside of the calendar every year we know when the
1:31:28 legislative session is going to end we know when all of the
1:31:28 the laws will be approved by the governor de sanchez or not but
1:31:32 we need to formalize a system across the calendar
1:31:34 that says okay during this time we know that all of those are in
1:31:38 we’ll need to bring forward any changes from the legislature for
1:31:38 policy reviews if that make sense i think we already have it
1:31:44 with the other policy they send us a packet pretty
1:31:50 within within a couple months right
1:32:06 and this year i hope and i’ll have an idea that we’ve made
1:32:11 earlier tomorrow
1:32:12 but yeah on a given year it’s usually like august september
1:32:16 we already we already do this it’s not a it’s not that i’m
1:32:19 trying to recreate it what i’m bringing me up here is
1:32:22 is that i would like to formally have it to where we know when
1:32:25 that time period is on our calendar
1:32:28 stage so that we know like this is when the new policies will
1:32:32 come every year and that we know that in july
1:32:34 or june or whatever it is that we’re going to be doing
1:32:36 because in some cases instead of us bringing up like we want to
1:32:40 change some of our policies we can just
1:32:42 put it to that date so that we’re not rolling with a bunch of
1:32:45 policies throughout the year so that makes sense
1:32:48 i don’t see i don’t know i i just i hesitate to it feels like
1:32:53 kind of locking us into blocks
1:32:54 and i think flexibility and yet there’s not been really to me
1:33:00 the bigger problem with policy review
1:33:02 it’s been the time when you’ve had a whole bunch all at one time
1:33:04 as opposed to
1:33:06 we are on a we’ve gone more for a twice a year
1:33:10 you know that it’s supposed to do updates a year
1:33:12 so we’ve gone more for the twice a year for the big ones
1:33:16 but we’ve had issues this year for the flexibility
1:33:20 is where we need to where staff has a need to change a policy
1:33:24 to put it on
1:33:26 but for instance
1:33:28 um twice a year to uh say this
1:33:32 what kind of updates
1:33:34 i think they’re supposed to be after legislative session
1:33:36 so probably anywhere depending on the year
1:33:38 you know
1:33:40 should be a lot of that in september
1:33:42 is when you’re going to be there so they’ll start rolling in
1:33:45 after staff gets the changes
1:33:46 uh
1:33:50 so we would know that in october
1:33:52 we’re going to be changing a lot of our policies
1:33:54 coming out from the state
1:33:56 so for me as a person that says i’ve got some changes that i
1:33:59 want to make
1:34:00 i would lump them into that
1:34:02 does that make sense it’s not saying that you have to
1:34:04 all that you can’t bring a policy up and change it
1:34:08 all it’s saying is formalizing the actual process
1:34:10 of how and when we actually bring up the majority of our
1:34:13 policies
1:34:14 there was a p-rank bill this year
1:34:16 that would take us out of the apa
1:34:18 which would have been nice
1:34:20 which short is that process
1:34:22 so like we have existing policies
1:34:28 that we need to review
1:34:30 we have federal policies that come up
1:34:32 um and then we have the new state laws
1:34:34 that come up all i’m saying is
1:34:36 i’m not saying that we are stuck
1:34:38 to only doing these but i would like
1:34:40 to formalize the dates along the year
1:34:42 that when we would actually have some pockets to do that
1:34:46 so there’s a law
1:34:48 for instance the 365 policy
1:34:50 i’ll talk about in a second
1:34:52 that i would like to but it doesn’t matter
1:34:54 if we do it exactly this year
1:34:56 i can put it there so that we know
1:34:58 that that’s a time period
1:35:00 that makes sense
1:35:02 i i just don’t feel strongly
1:35:04 about the necessity for formalizing that
1:35:06 i mean
1:35:08 it makes sense
1:35:10 the difference is
1:35:12 they’re not having
1:35:14 so what i can do is
1:35:16 i can allocate on my calendar
1:35:18 if i know that all the policies
1:35:20 the majority of them are coming out
1:35:22 i can allocate three days
1:35:24 with the calendar reviews
1:35:26 that i can do that
1:35:28 sometimes things come up in bulk
1:35:30 and i’m trying to scramble to review them
1:35:32 but i don’t
1:35:46 i don’t
1:35:46 i’ll oppose having a certain time
1:35:48 i don’t
1:35:50 i don’t know
1:35:52 the policy making board
1:35:54 we should do policies pretty much
1:35:56 on the routine basis honestly
1:35:56 as long as we’re not limiting
1:35:58 i mean i just
1:36:00 we usually have policy changes
1:36:00 over the time that we’re doing
1:36:02 student code conduct
1:36:02 right now
1:36:04 but that’s what prevent us from
1:36:06 bringing other policies
1:36:06 at other times
1:36:08 i also don’t want to lock it in
1:36:10 to exact time of year
1:36:12 because as paul mentioned
1:36:13 when we have an early session
1:36:14 that we get this year
1:36:16 neola centers out earlier
1:36:17 we have a late session
1:36:18 a super late session
1:36:19 like that last year
1:36:20 then it comes out later
1:36:22 maybe what would be helpful
1:36:24 especially if people look
1:36:26 at busy schedules
1:36:28 as soon as we get the neola update
1:36:30 you guys can expect
1:36:32 batch policies to hit
1:36:34 in the next
1:36:36 two months
1:36:38 just for transparency
1:36:40 absolutely
1:36:41 this would not be something
1:36:42 that we’re going to set
1:36:43 and say
1:36:44 in september every year
1:36:45 because it will change
1:36:46 at the beginning of the year
1:36:48 we come in and say
1:36:50 okay
1:36:51 you know the legislative session
1:36:52 is on march
1:36:53 let’s reach out to neola
1:36:54 neola will tell us
1:36:55 we will be sending you
1:36:56 your batch here
1:36:57 and then we can put that
1:36:58 down on the calendar
1:36:59 it’s just kind of formalizing
1:37:00 the process
1:37:02 can i say something
1:37:04 yeah
1:37:05 oh does ron get that
1:37:06 information already
1:37:08 neola doesn’t have a
1:37:10 deadline for it
1:37:11 like we contact them
1:37:12 like when are we going
1:37:13 to get them
1:37:14 and they’ll say
1:37:14 well we’re working on
1:37:15 now
1:37:16 we hope by
1:37:17 you know this date
1:37:18 but they run over
1:37:19 sometimes they’re quicker
1:37:20 can you loop me in
1:37:21 and you do that
1:37:22 that way i can
1:37:23 but it’s within 30 days
1:37:24 and then over
1:37:25 sometimes it’s fine
1:37:26 depending on the legislative session
1:37:27 like some years
1:37:28 there’s like a whole bunch
1:37:29 that require
1:37:30 they can’t even get them all out
1:37:33 quickly
1:37:34 so they’ll do like half of them
1:37:35 on an early batch
1:37:36 they’ll issue a special report
1:37:38 later on with the rest of them
1:37:41 so it just depends on them
1:37:43 given the year
1:37:44 like this year we’re pretty light
1:37:45 so i would expect that
1:37:46 that would happen
1:37:47 from 30 to 60 days
1:37:48 usually the DOE has to do the
1:37:51 rule banking
1:37:52 so that delays the process
1:37:54 if it’s going to be a little
1:37:56 if the statute is yet
1:37:58 directing the DOE to do something
1:38:00 you’re on a DOE schedule
1:38:01 at that point
1:38:02 and sometimes
1:38:03 they’ll say by December
1:38:04 the rule needs to be out
1:38:06 and it’ll be January
1:38:07 before they actually get the rule
1:38:09 what i’m hearing is that
1:38:10 you as a board member would like
1:38:12 as much time as possible
1:38:14 before the first work session
1:38:16 which is really the one
1:38:17 that we have the most ability
1:38:19 to make changes
1:38:20 so you’re wanting as much heads up
1:38:22 and a lot of time work sessions
1:38:24 we don’t get those agendas
1:38:25 until we don’t get them
1:38:26 the two weeks
1:38:27 early because they’re not board meetings
1:38:28 so and i agree
1:38:29 especially if we’re going to have
1:38:30 a big batch
1:38:31 i want to i even know i don’t
1:38:32 have a fine job outside of this
1:38:33 i want them as much as possible
1:38:35 because that’s a lot to read through
1:38:37 so you know
1:38:38 right that’s what i’m saying
1:38:49 we want staff to give us
1:38:51 those red line versions
1:38:53 as soon as they possibly can
1:38:55 give them to us
1:38:56 and not five days seven days
1:38:59 you know if they can give them
1:39:00 a full 14 days before
1:39:02 for the superintendent
1:39:04 yeah
1:39:05 what i’m trying to
1:39:07 what i’m trying to just say is
1:39:09 that right now
1:39:10 during the formal policy of
1:39:12 policy of review
1:39:13 we don’t have a specific
1:39:15 and this is what this is all about
1:39:17 it’s just organizing
1:39:18 a specific time that we actually
1:39:20 would put in
1:39:21 that this is in july
1:39:23 or in june
1:39:24 in may
1:39:25 we will review all of our
1:39:26 policies
1:39:27 or updates
1:39:28 that we may include
1:39:29 and if any board member wishes
1:39:30 to possibly update that
1:39:31 would be a good time
1:39:32 you’re talking about
1:39:33 outside of neola
1:39:34 because neola’s what we can’t
1:39:35 right right right
1:39:36 so the state has letters
1:39:37 it’s going to be a booming target
1:39:38 and within two years
1:39:39 you guys will be hitting
1:39:40 that five year mark
1:39:41 of all the ones we reviewed
1:39:42 and if you’re now 23
1:39:44 then you’ll need to start that
1:39:45 28, 29, 30
1:39:47 and all that
1:39:48 so that makes sense to do that
1:39:50 in a certain time of the year
1:39:51 I think
1:39:52 the first time was five
1:39:53 like that was
1:39:54 a lot
1:39:55 so
1:39:56 yeah
1:39:57 20 years
1:39:59 so one of the other things
1:40:00 so if we’re good on that
1:40:01 put that together
1:40:02 and bring it back
1:40:03 one of the things
1:40:05 I want to talk about
1:40:06 and review this
1:40:07 is just
1:40:08 I’m going to try to bring this up
1:40:09 once I get a little bit more
1:40:10 attention currently
1:40:11 when we as fellow students
1:40:12 they’re only allowed to stay out
1:40:14 for a full year
1:40:15 okay
1:40:16 and
1:40:17 when that
1:40:18 in some instances
1:40:19 those are students
1:40:20 that have done something
1:40:21 that I feel
1:40:23 that they should not
1:40:24 be able to come back
1:40:25 to our schools
1:40:26 as far as the threat
1:40:27 to our schools
1:40:28 and we’ve had situations
1:40:29 where some of these students
1:40:30 have gone to one school
1:40:31 done something
1:40:32 and then just popped up
1:40:33 in another school
1:40:34 and there’s nothing
1:40:35 our school can do
1:40:36 about it
1:40:37 so after 365 days
1:40:38 if there’s a threat
1:40:39 to our schools
1:40:40 then this student
1:40:42 can come back
1:40:43 and go to another school
1:40:44 and what that does
1:40:45 is
1:40:46 it really
1:40:47 I understand
1:40:48 that we want to try
1:40:49 to give every child
1:40:50 the opportunity
1:40:51 but for us
1:40:53 it disrupts schools
1:40:54 it puts security
1:40:56 into a situation
1:40:57 or something
1:40:58 so what I would like to do
1:40:59 is have you guys
1:41:00 just take a look at it
1:41:01 talk to Officer Klein
1:41:02 talk to Dr. Neville
1:41:03 and possibly repetician
1:41:04 the state
1:41:05 that this is not a school board
1:41:07 we cannot keep them out
1:41:09 we’re going to prefer
1:41:10 next year
1:41:11 I want
1:41:12 I suppose the things
1:41:13 I want to try to do
1:41:14 but I want you guys
1:41:15 to be understandable
1:41:17 it’s actually the remainder
1:41:18 of this year
1:41:19 and all of the next year
1:41:21 the superintendent
1:41:23 does have some authority
1:41:24 if it’s based on the best interest
1:41:25 of the students
1:41:26 and their safety
1:41:27 that he can place them
1:41:28 in locations
1:41:29 so if we wanted to maintain
1:41:31 like a
1:41:43 the success pathway
1:41:44 that’s the best option
1:41:46 for our student’s safety
1:41:47 we can put them in there
1:41:50 and then not have them
1:41:52 we have to educate them
1:41:53 so if they have to get the education
1:41:54 so it’s not the superintendent
1:41:55 that has that statutory
1:41:56 if we’re going to place them
1:41:57 and that’s it
1:41:58 because if they’re expelled
1:41:59 expelled
1:42:00 if they’re fully expelled
1:42:01 if they’re expelled
1:42:03 without services
1:42:04 right
1:42:05 then we’re not providing anything
1:42:06 so at the end of that 365
1:42:10 plus every year
1:42:11 we have
1:42:12 yeah
1:42:13 I was thinking that
1:42:14 it was in there last year
1:42:15 maybe should it make it through
1:42:16 because that is
1:42:17 when you started
1:42:18 last year
1:42:19 but now
1:42:20 right now
1:42:21 is a lot
1:42:22 yeah
1:42:23 I was thinking
1:42:24 it was in there last year
1:42:25 maybe should it make it through
1:42:26 because that is
1:42:27 when you started
1:42:28 last year
1:42:29 it was about
1:42:30 like
1:42:31 you could
1:42:32 you had to have a meeting
1:42:33 and they could have a hearing
1:42:34 too
1:42:35 if they were going to
1:42:36 we were going to extend them
1:42:37 for certain offenses
1:42:38 like weapons
1:42:39 yeah
1:42:40 weapons on campus
1:42:41 we could say
1:42:42 hey
1:42:42 the remainder of the year
1:42:43 you brought the gun
1:42:44 and all of the next
1:42:45 wasn’t enough
1:42:46 we’re going to extend it
1:42:47 for another school year
1:42:48 but you had to offer them
1:42:49 another hearing
1:42:50 and you had to justify
1:42:51 why
1:42:52 they needed to be expelled
1:42:53 for that issue
1:42:54 okay
1:42:55 but that one did it pass?
1:42:56 it did
1:42:58 okay
1:42:59 so we have
1:43:00 so we do have that option
1:43:01 you have that option
1:43:02 and the superintendent
1:43:03 has the flexibility
1:43:04 yeah
1:43:05 he has the placement
1:43:06 I mean this is going to be
1:43:07 the most extreme
1:43:08 this is not just
1:43:09 you got in a big fight
1:43:10 and you’re at this
1:43:11 the most extreme
1:43:12 someone who has
1:43:13 caused serious
1:43:15 potential danger
1:43:17 or a danger
1:43:20 to against this
1:43:21 and most of the time
1:43:22 those people are going
1:43:23 to be in jail
1:43:24 not always
1:43:26 in some of the elementary
1:43:27 school area
1:43:28 right now
1:43:29 that may be
1:43:30 qualified
1:43:31 for this
1:43:32 and that makes it
1:43:33 very difficult
1:43:34 with the law enforcement
1:43:35 law enforcement
1:43:36 so
1:43:37 that’s it
1:43:38 exactly like
1:43:39 that’s it
1:43:40 that’s what I can learn
1:43:41 no I
1:43:42 yeah we should not
1:43:43 you should stay with
1:43:44 this is actually
1:43:45 alright
1:43:46 so
1:43:47 new business
1:43:48 the idea of you guys
1:43:49 is that we do
1:43:50 so we get
1:43:51 to say business
1:43:52 what’s your guide
1:43:53 yes
1:43:54 there you go
1:43:55 I’d like to
1:43:57 talk
1:43:58 what I was getting at
1:44:00 is that we
1:44:01 run through
1:44:02 the new business
1:44:02 real quick
1:44:03 oh wait
1:44:04 what about the
1:44:05 communications
1:44:06 that was
1:44:07 I was just getting
1:44:08 down to
1:44:09 everybody
1:44:10 to report
1:44:11 calendars
1:44:12 they are actually
1:44:13 oh
1:44:14 you just had a list
1:44:15 yeah because
1:44:16 if we enforce
1:44:17 the calendar piece
1:44:18 and the communications
1:44:19 will tell what’s
1:44:20 going on
1:44:21 the idea
1:44:22 when I wrote this
1:44:23 was that we get
1:44:24 the communications
1:44:25 policies and communications
1:44:26 view when they were
1:44:27 getting stuff
1:44:28 but we’re engaging
1:44:29 on calendars
1:44:30 alright
1:44:31 so
1:44:31 new business
1:44:32 the only thing
1:44:33 that I have is
1:44:34 is that I’d like
1:44:35 to try to put together
1:44:36 we were with a group
1:44:38 Dr. Noah and I
1:44:39 were with some
1:44:40 face-to-face leaders
1:44:41 the other day
1:44:42 they were saying
1:44:43 we would like to bring
1:44:44 our church support
1:44:45 to help support
1:44:46 each one of the schools
1:44:47 and the idea is
1:44:48 that they would meet
1:44:49 with one of the
1:44:50 meetings
1:44:51 to go in
1:44:52 meet with the principal
1:44:53 and figure out
1:44:54 what they need
1:44:55 right
1:44:56 the problem is
1:44:57 it’s kind of a secondary
1:44:58 support issue
1:44:59 that the principals need
1:45:00 to kind of figure out
1:45:01 what I’d like to do
1:45:02 and it’s not for now
1:45:03 I’ll just bring it back
1:45:04 is that each one of the
1:45:06 principals puts together
1:45:07 if I had a series
1:45:08 of volunteers
1:45:09 here’s what they do
1:45:10 plan
1:45:11 what they need
1:45:13 to be engaged
1:45:14 with a school
1:45:15 they can say
1:45:16 here’s something that
1:45:17 rather than having
1:45:18 an official meeting
1:45:19 and they have to sit down
1:45:20 and figure it out
1:45:21 and go through it
1:45:22 which is normally
1:45:23 during the year
1:45:24 it’s kind of a sunset
1:45:25 maybe that’s something
1:45:26 to put it together
1:45:27 to the volunteers
1:45:27 that’s all
1:45:28 well I know
1:45:29 I mean
1:45:30 I always
1:45:31 there’s
1:45:32 elementary is usually
1:45:33 easier to find
1:45:34 most elementary
1:45:35 I think some of our
1:45:36 schools
1:45:36 it’s a little bit harder
1:45:37 sometimes for them
1:45:38 to find chaperones
1:45:39 or things like that
1:45:40 but I know I just
1:45:41 was emailing with
1:45:43 an employee
1:45:45 who’s a friend
1:45:46 who was going to have
1:45:47 to take time off
1:45:48 from the school
1:45:49 where she teaches
1:45:50 because they couldn’t
1:45:51 find a volunteer
1:45:52 to go to a choir
1:45:53 thing
1:45:54 and I’m like
1:45:55 okay
1:45:56 there’s gotta be people
1:45:57 who are available
1:45:58 but if high school parents
1:45:59 are more likely to work
1:46:00 less likely to be
1:46:01 actively involved
1:46:02 that could be
1:46:04 random high school
1:46:06 support person
1:46:07 you know
1:46:08 who’s gone through
1:46:09 the background process
1:46:10 or whatever
1:46:11 but they’re on a call list
1:46:12 I think it needs
1:46:13 to be both ways
1:46:14 I think it needs to be
1:46:15 the school presents
1:46:18 here’s our usual things
1:46:20 that we could use
1:46:21 volunteers for
1:46:22 but also
1:46:24 that the school
1:46:25 can have a list
1:46:26 of
1:46:27 you know
1:46:28 here are people
1:46:29 who have already been
1:46:30 in fact unchecked
1:46:31 and here
1:46:32 so if your choir teacher
1:46:33 doesn’t have enough
1:46:34 chaperones
1:46:35 they can call
1:46:36 Joe Blow
1:46:37 the volunteer person
1:46:38 who’s already gone
1:46:39 through the process
1:46:40 and this person knows
1:46:41 them
1:46:42 and hey
1:46:43 can you chaperone
1:46:44 and you know
1:46:45 and get someone else
1:46:46 to go
1:46:47 or even better
1:46:48 if they put down
1:46:49 as part of their
1:46:50 volunteer plan
1:46:51 we would like to have
1:46:52 volunteers come
1:46:53 we would like to have
1:46:54 and here’s the case
1:46:55 that they would be
1:46:56 doing something
1:46:57 or
1:46:58 we do have these
1:46:59 here’s the training
1:47:00 that you
1:47:01 can go through
1:47:02 we also need to put
1:47:04 not just school
1:47:05 specific things
1:47:06 but if we can add
1:47:07 to that list
1:47:08 like pre-populate
1:47:09 those lists
1:47:10 with things that are
1:47:11 stopping children
1:47:13 if you would like
1:47:14 and not every school
1:47:15 has to take
1:47:16 stopping children students
1:47:17 but all of our
1:47:18 high schools
1:47:19 and middle schools
1:47:20 but you know
1:47:21 if you’re looking
1:47:22 to go a further step
1:47:23 because then we’re
1:47:24 feeding people
1:47:25 who might want
1:47:26 longer
1:47:27 more
1:47:28 because that’s like
1:47:29 a weekly commitment
1:47:30 you can feed more
1:47:31 volunteers
1:47:32 so I think this is great
1:47:34 what I was
1:47:35 my theory was
1:47:36 bringing up this concept
1:47:37 kick it back to you guys
1:47:39 work through what you
1:47:40 think it should be
1:47:41 you need to talk to them
1:47:42 and then we can try
1:47:43 to bring it forward
1:47:44 by the end of the year
1:47:45 so that some of the
1:47:46 principals for the
1:47:47 beginning of next year
1:47:48 before they get engaged
1:47:49 they have to get the plan
1:47:50 if that’s good
1:47:51 because
1:47:52 the AI policy
1:47:53 that we were talking about
1:47:54 we had some conversations
1:47:55 out over there
1:47:56 I’d like to bring
1:47:57 I was kind of selected
1:47:58 to do a big school district
1:48:00 AI representative
1:48:02 for like the Poles
1:48:03 the Billards
1:48:04 and all that stuff
1:48:05 across the state of Florida
1:48:06 there’s a policy
1:48:07 that I’ve been putting
1:48:08 together
1:48:09 with some of the other
1:48:10 AI groups
1:48:11 I’d like to try to get that
1:48:13 my concern is
1:48:15 is that
1:48:16 this is a big deal
1:48:17 right
1:48:18 if we’re going to
1:48:19 get it in
1:48:20 say
1:48:21 to implementation
1:48:22 before August of next year
1:48:23 we may have to
1:48:24 kind of workshop this
1:48:25 a little bit earlier
1:48:26 so that if there’s
1:48:27 any part of the trainings
1:48:28 that we have
1:48:29 over the summer
1:48:30 that we actually
1:48:31 are ready to give
1:48:32 that AI
1:48:33 so I would just
1:48:34 yeah
1:48:35 I’ve asked
1:48:36 no one to say
1:48:37 maybe
1:48:39 I don’t know
1:48:40 if
1:48:41 you know
1:48:42 I’ll work with
1:48:43 Dr. Mendel
1:48:44 but I’d like to try
1:48:45 to get it either
1:48:46 March 31st
1:48:47 or the first meeting
1:48:48 in April
1:48:49 just to have a conversation
1:48:50 about AI
1:48:51 and then have Dr. Mendel
1:48:52 and staff
1:48:53 put something together
1:48:54 for me
1:48:55 I’d like to try
1:48:56 to move a little bit
1:48:57 quicker on that one
1:48:58 because I’d like to
1:48:59 have it ready
1:49:00 and I think we’re going
1:49:01 to have that training
1:49:02 on the teachers
1:49:03 next year
1:49:04 does that make sense
1:49:05 that’s all I have
1:49:06 I’ve got a few things
1:49:07 to make you guys aware
1:49:08 and I’d love to get your
1:49:09 feedback on some of it
1:49:10 um
1:49:11 hang on
1:49:12 before we get too long
1:49:13 we really didn’t
1:49:14 so is this going to be like
1:49:17 a five minute
1:49:18 or like a 50 minute
1:49:19 ok
1:49:20 10 minutes before
1:49:22 Sleeve was supposed to present
1:49:23 I figured we could get
1:49:24 through it
1:49:25 they’re not
1:49:26 whether we start at 11:00 or 11:15
1:49:27 our business is done
1:49:28 they present
1:49:29 right
1:49:30 so if we could take a couple of minutes
1:49:31 so if Ms. Campbell
1:49:32 if we could move quickly through it
1:49:33 if we could
1:49:34 I’ll be right back
1:49:35 if somebody wants to
1:49:36 discuss something
1:49:37 but
1:49:38 I’ve discussed this with Dr. Rendel
1:49:40 just making you guys aware
1:49:41 about
1:49:42 we’re exploring the idea
1:49:43 of a sixth grade field trip
1:49:45 um
1:49:46 maybe a north-south
1:49:47 type of thing
1:49:48 for the sixth graders
1:49:49 to
1:49:50 tour the CTE programs
1:49:52 and have a better idea
1:49:53 of what’s available to them
1:49:55 um
1:49:56 second thing was a choice fair
1:49:57 this is just very exploratory
1:49:59 but I think Dr. Rendel
1:50:00 and I have had one conversation
1:50:02 but
1:50:03 wants to give you a north-south
1:50:04 type thing
1:50:05 but
1:50:06 have a
1:50:07 have a central location
1:50:08 where all parents can come
1:50:09 and see what
1:50:10 what all our schools have to offer
1:50:12 um
1:50:13 and then do it virtually too
1:50:14 so that
1:50:15 if somebody hits it
1:50:16 they can group
1:50:17 watch and report
1:50:18 third thing was
1:50:20 um
1:50:21 a marketing campaign
1:50:22 um
1:50:23 and that’s just
1:50:24 I mentioned this
1:50:25 I think that Dr. Rendel
1:50:26 and I may discuss it
1:50:27 maybe not
1:50:28 I’m trying to surprise him
1:50:29 but
1:50:29 the idea being
1:50:30 um
1:50:31 you know
1:50:32 most private schools
1:50:33 or charter schools
1:50:34 do something
1:50:35 they hang their hand on something
1:50:36 and if you look at
1:50:37 so just from a purely marketing standpoint
1:50:38 I’d love for us to have
1:50:40 every
1:50:41 whatever each elementary school does well
1:50:43 as
1:50:44 be the school of
1:50:45 uh
1:50:46 you know
1:50:47 we have the West Farm School of Science obviously
1:50:49 but without any
1:50:50 additional academic standards
1:50:52 if Palm Bay Elementary is great in history
1:50:54 that’s her forte
1:50:55 or music
1:50:56 they’re the school of music
1:50:57 uh
1:50:58 Port Malinois is good at
1:50:59 what you know right
1:51:00 so you’re the school of
1:51:01 it doesn’t mean
1:51:02 it just provides
1:51:03 it highlights what they do
1:51:04 exceptionally well
1:51:04 it might be what their mission statement is
1:51:06 it might not be a specific thing
1:51:07 it might be something that they pride themselves as
1:51:09 as far as action
1:51:10 but from a marketing standpoint
1:51:12 it’s
1:51:14 it’s showing parents that they’re
1:51:15 we’re not just a
1:51:16 just a general public school
1:51:17 where we
1:51:18 this is what we do
1:51:19 we’re highlighting what we do well
1:51:20 so
1:51:21 that’s
1:51:22 you know something I’m kind of pursuing
1:51:24 um
1:51:25 fourth thing is along those lines
1:51:26 um
1:51:27 I noticed
1:51:28 in just talking to some of the schools
1:51:29 that don’t have great promotional videos about their
1:51:31 about their school
1:51:32 and
1:51:33 I know we’re already tapped in
1:51:34 or
1:51:35 stretched in
1:51:36 so
1:51:37 I’ve thought about trying to get with FIT
1:51:38 and seeing about
1:51:39 if they would have
1:51:40 you know
1:51:41 their communications department
1:51:42 they would have
1:51:43 any interest in it as a project
1:51:44 coming into a
1:51:46 Port Malinois Elementary
1:51:47 and doing a promo video for them
1:51:49 and being able
1:51:50 maybe in coordination with their students
1:51:51 I don’t know
1:51:52 with something along those lines
1:51:53 or stone or what have you
1:51:54 and some of our
1:51:55 our communications kids
1:51:56 have I think
1:51:57 five communications programs
1:51:58 throughout the district
1:51:59 for a writer and technical
1:52:00 maybe we have that
1:52:01 too
1:52:02 I love it
1:52:04 um
1:52:05 one campus
1:52:06 I would like
1:52:07 one group
1:52:08 came up with this idea
1:52:09 for one campus
1:52:10 I think actually it was Sue
1:52:11 that was Sue’s idea
1:52:12 but
1:52:13 in lieu of having an actual campus
1:52:14 where it is in one place
1:52:16 making a stronger tie between
1:52:18 the elementary schools
1:52:19 in my particular case
1:52:20 my elementary schools
1:52:21 are feed into say
1:52:22 Stone or Central
1:52:23 and then into those high schools
1:52:25 and then into FIT
1:52:26 but make it a
1:52:27 make it a
1:52:28 more of a coordinated path
1:52:29 or at least more of a
1:52:30 whether it’s those schools
1:52:31 have communicated
1:52:33 there’s some kind of
1:52:34 whether it’s academic
1:52:35 or curriculum is aligned
1:52:37 but just some way
1:52:38 when you go to
1:52:39 when you’re in an elementary school
1:52:40 you feel like you’re part of the community
1:52:42 and you can see the impact
1:52:43 you know
1:52:44 these are close
1:52:45 they’re in the middle there
1:52:46 there you go
1:52:47 I don’t know
1:52:48 it could be
1:52:48 what pick your college
1:52:49 or pick your university
1:52:50 but that is not just
1:52:52 so if you’re at a
1:52:53 you know right now
1:52:54 we introduce kids
1:52:55 because they’re not
1:52:56 maybe not part of
1:52:57 they felt more like
1:52:58 a part of a school community
1:52:59 they may not be so happy to go off
1:53:00 you know
1:53:01 I think it’s awesome
1:53:02 I know it’s that
1:53:03 but
1:53:04 getting the parents
1:53:05 to understand
1:53:06 those other schools
1:53:07 before they just show up
1:53:08 to the parents’ teacher conference
1:53:09 you know that
1:53:10 and this is where you get a program
1:53:11 I promise you
1:53:12 you can do that
1:53:13 I’m keeping in mind
1:53:17 in five minutes
1:53:18 CTE competition
1:53:21 I know
1:53:22 Susan I know
1:53:23 you have an interest in that
1:53:24 we discussed it years ago
1:53:25 actually
1:53:26 when I was
1:53:27 before I ever got on the school board
1:53:28 and I’d love to coordinate with you
1:53:29 and be the
1:53:30 work with something
1:53:31 trying to get some of the
1:53:32 building associations
1:53:34 around the state
1:53:35 to get behind some of their schools
1:53:37 and see if we can create
1:53:38 some kind of competition
1:53:39 then last but not least
1:53:42 I just want to make you guys aware
1:53:43 this is a big
1:53:44 this is not
1:53:45 set in stone
1:53:46 but we’ve discussed it
1:53:47 a couple times
1:53:48 and that is
1:53:49 Deputy Mayor Jaffe
1:53:51 myself
1:53:52 we’re talking about
1:53:53 for Palm Bay
1:53:54 we’re talking about hosting
1:53:55 a town hall meeting
1:53:56 and then maybe inviting
1:53:57 Mr. Atkinson
1:53:59 they did
1:54:00 the state rep
1:54:01 you know
1:54:02 Wendy Miller
1:54:03 and Devin Bigfield
1:54:04 see how schedules align
1:54:05 that try to do it
1:54:06 an all inclusive town hall
1:54:07 type of thing
1:54:08 great time
1:54:14 so that’s
1:54:15 that’s all there can be on my list
1:54:16 I just want to kind of get you guys
1:54:17 up to date
1:54:18 so
1:54:19 yeah
1:54:20 I just want to make sure
1:54:21 I’m the chair
1:54:23 well I’m just saying
1:54:25 at this point
1:54:26 John deal stuff
1:54:27 that I want to make sure
1:54:28 he doesn’t
1:54:29 feel
1:54:29 who you go to
1:54:30 and talk about
1:54:31 things
1:54:32 that all
1:54:33 things I have
1:54:34 on this
1:54:35 now
1:54:36 you know
1:54:39 get out of here
1:54:40 the rest of it
1:54:41 we know
1:54:42 but
1:54:44 we always had things
1:54:45 on
1:54:46 other burgers
1:54:47 so
1:54:48 we’ve lots of
1:54:49 things going on
1:54:50 so
1:54:50 this is how
1:54:51 we need to tell you
1:54:52 we have to tell you
1:54:53 you know
1:54:54 I’m the community
1:54:55 I’ve not been
1:54:56 I’ve been in a lot of this
1:54:57 so I’m
1:54:58 not going to listen
1:54:59 so
1:55:00 we’ll take a break
1:55:01 it’s
1:55:02 the industry chair
1:55:03 actually
1:55:04 oh
1:55:05 camera
1:55:06 I’ll try to be very quick
1:55:07 it’s not just me
1:55:09 the people of the world
1:55:10 thank you guys
1:55:11 the rest of it
1:55:12 me too
1:55:12 so
1:55:13 um
1:55:14 discussion today
1:55:15 so for the audience
1:55:16 it’s just discussion today
1:55:18 um
1:55:19 we did not have
1:55:20 any hurricane
1:55:21 impact this year
1:55:22 yay
1:55:23 um
1:55:24 so we did not have to close school
1:55:25 or anything like that
1:55:26 uh
1:55:27 since we shortened
1:55:28 the early release time
1:55:29 on Fridays
1:55:30 uh
1:55:31 we had a lot more
1:55:32 instructional minutes
1:55:33 and
1:55:34 that’s the thing that
1:55:35 everybody thinks
1:55:36 the school calendar
1:55:37 is about days
1:55:38 it’s not about days
1:55:39 it’s about minutes
1:55:40 instructional minutes
1:55:42 so
1:55:43 we didn’t lose
1:55:44 any instructional minutes
1:55:45 during hurricane season
1:55:47 we have two days of school
1:55:49 after memorial
1:55:50 we had
1:55:52 days of school
1:55:53 after memorial day
1:55:54 last year
1:55:55 they were not very
1:55:56 well attended
1:55:57 we have enough
1:55:59 minutes
1:56:00 in our calendar
1:56:01 that we don’t
1:56:02 have to come to school
1:56:03 those last two days
1:56:05 so
1:56:06 I just need
1:56:07 to know if the board
1:56:08 is interested in me
1:56:09 putting together a proposal
1:56:10 that would eliminate those
1:56:11 last two days
1:56:12 in the school year
1:56:13 I would totally be interested
1:56:16 but I would
1:56:17 I say
1:56:18 the unintended consequences
1:56:19 of what I want to check through
1:56:20 because schools have built their
1:56:22 not elementaries
1:56:23 calendars
1:56:24 but second round there
1:56:25 inspectors in particular
1:56:26 have built their schedules
1:56:27 their calendars around
1:56:28 time this week
1:56:29 and
1:56:30 the AP/ID testing
1:56:32 and
1:56:33 sometimes we even have
1:56:34 testing on
1:56:35 so
1:56:36 as long as we
1:56:37 you call them
1:56:38 before
1:56:39 they’ll adjust
1:56:40 their calendar
1:56:41 yeah
1:56:42 they will
1:56:43 a couple things
1:56:44 to think about
1:56:45 a lot of our employees
1:56:47 technically
1:56:48 we don’t have school
1:56:49 they don’t report
1:56:50 for example
1:56:51 cafeteria
1:56:52 transportation
1:56:53 also have to care
1:56:55 yeah they care
1:56:56 so
1:56:57 we
1:56:58 we would still have them
1:56:59 report to work
1:57:00 on those two days
1:57:01 and do training
1:57:03 and other things
1:57:04 for example
1:57:05 almost all of those
1:57:07 I think every one of those
1:57:08 people still needs to have
1:57:10 to use my blood on first day
1:57:11 training
1:57:12 and it has to be updated
1:57:13 after three years
1:57:14 so that we can have them all
1:57:16 either go to the training
1:57:17 or do the training
1:57:21 on those two days
1:57:22 I imagine
1:57:23 that Mr. Thornton
1:57:24 could find something
1:57:25 for these employees
1:57:26 to do those two days
1:57:27 that would be productive
1:57:28 same thing with transportation
1:57:29 any of our hourly employees
1:57:30 that typically
1:57:31 when we don’t have school
1:57:32 they don’t report to work
1:57:33 we would have them
1:57:34 report to work
1:57:35 because we want them
1:57:36 to be able to say
1:57:37 they’re full now
1:57:38 they’re expecting
1:57:39 and we would have
1:57:40 things for them to do
1:57:41 so
1:57:42 I can put together
1:57:43 what that looks like
1:57:44 and bring it to the Board
1:57:45 for approval
1:57:46 yeah
1:57:47 we need to move on
1:57:48 as quickly as possible
1:57:49 because a lot of people
1:57:50 plan their lives
1:57:51 far in advance
1:57:52 but
1:57:53 yeah
1:57:54 I’m up for it
1:57:55 as long as we can
1:57:56 yeah
1:57:56 the drop in attendance
1:57:57 for those days
1:57:58 last year
1:57:59 is significant
1:58:00 and so
1:58:01 if we have the opportunity
1:58:02 to
1:58:03 we don’t ever want to say
1:58:04 we don’t
1:58:05 want to have school
1:58:06 but we want
1:58:07 the experience
1:58:08 to be meaningful
1:58:09 and productive
1:58:10 and those last two days
1:58:11 last year
1:58:12 I don’t know
1:58:13 they were being more productive
1:58:14 the good news is
1:58:15 the good news
1:58:16 yes
1:58:17 the good news is
1:58:18 for next year
1:58:19 we finish
1:58:20 before Memorial Day holiday
1:58:21 so
1:58:22 all right
1:58:23 did I say
1:58:23 every day
1:58:24 I’m here
1:58:25 say tomorrow
1:58:26 can you say tomorrow
1:58:27 okay
1:58:28 that was it
1:58:29 last week
1:58:30 okay
1:58:31 we got back
1:58:32 last week
1:58:33 yeah
1:58:33 looking forward to it
1:58:35 we got back
1:58:59 so you’re a truck car
1:59:00 you know
1:59:01 what happens
1:59:02 is for a while
1:59:03 okay
1:59:04 I’ll do it
1:59:17 yeah
1:59:18 what’s working
1:59:19 you
1:59:20 maybe it was
1:59:22 you
1:59:23 that’s what you’re doing
1:59:30 I already know
1:59:31 that’s what you’re doing
1:59:32 Let’s see the official.
2:00:02 There’s some people there, will you need to work with it while
2:00:12 you’re doing it?
2:00:15 Thank you.
2:00:38 Suzanne’s buying snacks for the guys.
2:00:40 Oh, that’s awful nice.
2:00:42 I have one.
2:00:43 All right.
2:00:47 Make sure you can get up on the seat.
2:00:49 Okay.
2:00:53 Some people have female allergies.
2:01:13 I’ll talk with it.
2:01:25 Yeah, I know.
2:01:29 I’ll talk with it.
2:01:39 I’ll see you.
2:01:41 I’ll talk with it.
2:02:03 I appreciate it.
2:02:05 I’ll talk with it.
2:02:19 Yeah.
2:02:21 I’ll talk with it.
2:03:58 Yes.
2:03:59 I’ll talk with it.
2:04:27 Yes.
2:04:29 Thank you.
2:04:59 I’ll talk with it.
2:05:26 Yeah.
2:05:27 I’ll talk with it.
2:05:34 Yeah.
2:05:35 I’ll talk with it.
2:05:39 Oh, yeah.
2:05:40 Fine.
2:05:41 I’ll talk with it.
2:05:51 You want the light back over there?
2:05:52 Yes.
2:05:53 I’ll talk with it.
2:05:55 Yeah.
2:05:56 I’ll talk with it.
2:06:16 All right.
2:06:17 So, everybody knows our new medical or healthcare consultants is
2:06:29 with the Educator’s Health Trust.
2:06:36 Mr. Jim Powell is going to give a presentation today.
2:06:39 He gave that presentation a couple days ago.
2:06:41 I said to him, I said, we don’t have a full board here.
2:06:44 They’re moving forward with planning designs and everything that
2:06:47 are going to bring us into an incredible, incredible place.
2:06:50 And I did not want them to move forward with doing it all.
2:06:55 So, I asked him to come back.
2:06:57 Mr. Powell, how long is it drawn for you to come here?
2:07:00 Three hours.
2:07:01 Mr. Powell went back on Wednesday and then came back
2:07:04 specifically for you guys today.
2:07:06 But he felt –
2:07:07 Manly.
2:07:10 I felt like we needed to hear this and make sure that there was
2:07:13 any questions.
2:07:14 What they’re going to do is put all this together and then come
2:07:17 back with a recommendation
2:07:19 about short favorably thereafter if they did not want to start
2:07:22 without you guys putting your eyes on it.
2:07:25 So, if you have anything that you need to change or questions,
2:07:27 ask them now.
2:07:28 And then they’re going to get to work.
2:07:30 So, with that, this is a problem.
2:07:31 And then they should end the floor.
2:07:33 Do you want us to turn the lights on you or are you good with
2:07:37 the way that is?
2:07:38 I’m good.
2:07:39 Okay.
2:07:40 You all are good.
2:07:41 I just want to make sure we can see the screen.
2:07:43 Yes, sir.
2:07:44 Yeah, so what we’re looking at is the plan projections of
2:07:46 expense.
2:07:47 You can have a quick snapshot of this year, 2026, as well as 2027
2:07:52 if we make no changes to the plan and bump that out next to what
2:07:57 we’re recommending to split.
2:07:59 What we’re going to be talking about is something that is really
2:08:02 going to be the fleet benchmark plan for improving the wellness
2:08:06 of your employees.
2:08:08 So, that’s the smallest.
2:08:09 So, the first thing we’re looking at are you have the two plans
2:08:15 with two networks.
2:08:18 And there’s reasons that that’s in place, but those reasons have
2:08:22 changed since they were put in.
2:08:25 And now we can consolidate one plan with a gold network.
2:08:29 There won’t be any loss of in-network providers and just have
2:08:33 one plan in January 27th.
2:08:36 So, Mr. Powell, my name.
2:08:38 The architect behind the gold and silver plan was Mr. Langdorff.
2:08:41 Mr. Langdorff was one of us years ago.
2:08:44 I met with Mr. Langdorff about a year ago.
2:08:46 I don’t know, two years ago when we started doing this, we need
2:08:49 to change our healthcare plan.
2:08:50 Mr. Langdorff had mentioned that if we still had the gold and
2:08:53 silver plan not consolidated by now, that it was time to do so.
2:08:59 So, the architects of the plan mentioned that we may want to,
2:09:03 that this would be the better plan to move to.
2:09:05 So, just so you know.
2:09:06 And you must probably not know that, but I want you guys to know.
2:09:08 I appreciate that.
2:09:09 Thank you.
2:09:10 Yeah.
2:09:11 So, simplification, one network makes it really easy and no loss
2:09:16 of survivors, which is also a beautiful thing.
2:09:18 Consolidating those two into one set of deductibles in a
2:09:22 wellness structure.
2:09:24 And the idea is that right now we have clinics where people can
2:09:27 go for annual physicals.
2:09:29 We have Cigna.
2:09:30 They can go to their doctors.
2:09:31 There’s a lot of confusion about where do I go for my wellness
2:09:34 and then what happens once I’ve had my physical.
2:09:37 We’re going to use that as the benchmark to start driving people
2:09:41 to your clinics.
2:09:42 So, we want your employees to use the clinic almost like a
2:09:46 primary care physician if they can.
2:09:49 If they use it for preventive, it’s free.
2:09:52 If you decide to go the high deductible route with a health
2:09:56 savings account, there would be a nominal charge, say $20 copay
2:10:00 for higher treatments that they have done at the clinic.
2:10:04 So, we need to take something that’s not prevented but minimal
2:10:07 expense.
2:10:08 So, that’s the focus of the plan.
2:10:11 We’ve got some wellness metrics as well that we want people to
2:10:15 go in annually.
2:10:16 Part of this program would be they visit the clinic annually and
2:10:20 they do a blood draw and the nurse practitioner says your values
2:10:25 are great.
2:10:26 I don’t want to see you for another year or another member comes
2:10:30 in and they’ve got some concern areas.
2:10:32 That nurse practitioner will put them on a program and say here’s
2:10:36 what I want you to do with nutrition and exercise and I want to
2:10:39 see you back three times a year.
2:10:41 They put them on what we call a compliance program but it
2:10:43 actually gets them involved in their own health.
2:10:46 And the motive for doing that is they can achieve, as you see
2:10:51 here, a lower wellness deductible.
2:10:55 So, we found that this type of structure works very well with
2:10:59 this kind of a model to get people into the clinic to improve
2:11:03 their health.
2:11:04 Because that’s the biggest expense of your plan are the claims.
2:11:08 And the only way we can impact those other than maybe a higher
2:11:11 deductible like we’re looking at here is wellness and improving
2:11:16 people’s health.
2:11:17 If I may, Mr. Powell.
2:11:18 Sure.
2:11:19 One of the analogies that you can look at this chart again is
2:11:22 that you’re building a silver plan at the top, the wellness and
2:11:25 not going to press the double bolts at the top.
2:11:27 You miss the fact that you just go down to where the prescriptions
2:11:30 are at the bottom are also part of the double bolts.
2:11:33 So, if you add the deductibles together from the individual gold
2:11:36 and the family gold and silver, where we are building the deductibles
2:11:40 is actually missing.
2:11:41 It just combines them.
2:11:42 The other anomaly that you’re seeing is that we want, we are
2:11:46 basically being recommended a I care and I don’t care clinic.
2:11:51 So, if you care about your health and you want to go in and use
2:11:54 the clinics and you’re going to go there for your care and be
2:11:58 treated,
2:11:59 you’re going to be able to get all of those for free.
2:12:02 So, whereas the NWB, you know, you won’t have any costs towards
2:12:07 the double.
2:12:08 And if you guys remember, our current healthcare clinics are, I
2:12:12 believe Marathon, they have a limited amount of offerings that
2:12:16 they have at the clinic.
2:12:17 But you guys remember, I think some of you went to People with
2:12:20 Health.
2:12:21 People with Health offers almost 85% of the claims that we would
2:12:25 normally incur in the situation.
2:12:28 They are going to go out to a R&D for claims and the model that
2:12:33 they’re bringing is going to look more like People with Health.
2:12:37 So, the idea is that they’re actually going to have a smaller
2:12:41 deductible with this plan taken to the body.
2:12:45 But then on top of that, if you’re utilizing the healthcare
2:12:47 system, the significant savings of the individual is there.
2:12:51 So, I have to push back on that maybe as – I’m here to hear you.
2:12:57 But I have to push back on that because what I’ve seen, you
2:13:01 talked about pharmacy deductibles.
2:13:04 That’s only if you get something besides the – like if I go get
2:13:09 a generic drug and pay $20, I’m not paying my deductible before
2:13:13 I’m paying $20.
2:13:14 So, we have significantly – like the clinic model, we’ve
2:13:19 significantly increased the potential for the deductibles by
2:13:24 making up to $4,000, $8,000.
2:13:29 So, especially if you’re talking about – if I read this
2:13:33 correctly, even regular doctor visits outside of the money is
2:13:40 subject to deductibles.
2:13:42 So, I’m going to my family – and I’m not going to be here to
2:13:44 them, not personally, but my family, this model,
2:13:48 they have to hit the $8,000 deductibles before co-insured
2:13:52 supplies from this doctor visit?
2:13:55 So, that’s one of the plan options.
2:13:58 You see at the top, we snuck in really small up there, the
2:14:01 little yellow link that says board contributed HRA, HSAC.
2:14:06 That’s health reimbursement account or a health savings account.
2:14:10 That’s the decision point that we’ll need to talk about in the
2:14:13 high deductible structure.
2:14:15 This is the one that you just talked about here.
2:14:17 This one – let me talk over here.
2:14:19 This plan right here with the deductible co-insurance.
2:14:22 That’s the biggest pain point of this plan is the first time
2:14:26 people go to CVS and they fold their script, it’s an aisle.
2:14:29 So, we try to take some of the pain out of that, frankly, and we
2:14:33 put in the first $500 for single and $1,000 for family that they
2:14:39 can use for that.
2:14:40 The other point of education is the clinic.
2:14:43 If it’s a generic, they can go to the clinic and get it free.
2:14:47 So, really, this high deductible wallet, you’re right, this gets
2:14:53 your attention, it really helps to focus.
2:14:56 When we put this plan in at other places, the clinic utilization
2:15:00 goes up from 30%, 40%, which is what LeVar has now, to 70%.
2:15:07 And I have been, in the past, another life in my job on a high
2:15:11 deductible plan with an employer that actually put our entire,
2:15:16 you know, we can’t do this, they put our entire deductible
2:15:18 amount into an HSA.
2:15:20 And so, I would go to the doctor’s office and they would say, oh
2:15:24 my gosh, your bill, sorry, it’s $112.
2:15:27 I’m like, it’s okay, I have this card, it’s fine, it’s the way
2:15:29 the plan works.
2:15:30 Because even the providers are shocked by, I think probably less
2:15:33 now because more people are going into that.
2:15:35 But people would still, let me ask this question, again, I’m not
2:15:38 trying to jump ahead of you, but if the board does the seed plan
2:15:43 for the HSA, employees would be able to add non-tax
2:15:49 contributions to make their HSA higher, correct?
2:15:52 Yeah, if you go that route with the HSA, if you go to the health
2:15:55 reimbursement accounts, you know, it’s a different model, but,
2:15:58 you know, there are pluses and minuses to either one.
2:16:01 So, this model can flex either way.
2:16:03 Right.
2:16:05 Thank you, and I’m sorry for missing a little tiny one.
2:16:06 Well, it’s tiny, that’s why.
2:16:07 And this, in this handle, I’ll say that the formulary of all
2:16:11 acts on students inside of the clinic for the people ones is
2:16:15 significantly high to 50 to 60%.
2:16:19 Right.
2:16:20 So, that, you know, is all three again.
2:16:22 So, yeah, no, great point.
2:16:23 I’m sorry, Pat, because I’ll be fine.
2:16:26 Sorry.
2:16:27 Discussion.
2:16:28 I can’t read you from here.
2:16:29 Well, and we’ll look at the math of each of these, because each
2:16:35 one has implications financially, but we kind of anticipated
2:16:40 that question, so we thought, well, a middle step in between
2:16:44 where we’re at now and this third plan is the fourth, which you
2:16:49 see brings back in the current co-pay structure for pharmacy.
2:16:50 It costs a little bit more, as you guessed, but, you know, that’s
2:16:55 kind of a middle ground that you could go to as well.
2:16:59 Same metrics otherwise, but that plan, because it has co-pays,
2:17:04 would not be a high-deductible health plan as qualified by the
2:17:08 IRS and would not qualify for the health savings account.
2:17:11 Right.
2:17:12 So, because of those co-pays, you would have to go to the health
2:17:15 reimbursement account model.
2:17:17 So, that’s why we’ve got both shown here.
2:17:19 So, they’re each cool options.
2:17:21 They’re a little bit different from each other.
2:17:23 Still, does that help?
2:17:24 I’m not as familiar with the HRA.
2:17:25 Do they still have the ability to add their own funds?
2:17:28 No.
2:17:29 This would just be the employer.
2:17:30 And we can’t have an FSA with this on top of that?
2:17:33 You could.
2:17:34 You can.
2:17:35 So, you could still have an FSA.
2:17:36 So, we can still do the FSA like we have now, which is employee,
2:17:39 all employee contributions.
2:17:41 Absolutely.
2:17:42 Yeah.
2:17:43 I’m talking about this, but the, the, I don’t know.
2:17:47 Oh, wait.
2:17:48 Mr. Kopp.
2:17:49 Yeah, you get in with the HSA, you get in with the limited FSA.
2:17:53 Mr. Kopp, could you explain the difference between HRA, HSA, HSA
2:17:58 when we’re putting money in?
2:18:00 Yes.
2:18:01 Yeah, thank you, Ryan.
2:18:02 I appreciate that.
2:18:03 The money, the minute it hits the HSA account from the board, it
2:18:06 becomes the employee’s.
2:18:08 So, they own it.
2:18:09 It’s their account.
2:18:10 So, if they use it, great.
2:18:13 If they don’t use it, they can take it with them when they leave
2:18:16 the school district.
2:18:17 So, there’s that.
2:18:19 I literally have 76 cents left in an HSA from like 12 years ago.
2:18:24 Congrats.
2:18:25 So, yeah.
2:18:28 So, it goes in, it becomes their money.
2:18:30 So, they’ve got a reimbursement account is employer-run.
2:18:33 So, if they don’t use it, they lose it.
2:18:35 So, it’s, it’s from a funding and budget commitment standpoint,
2:18:38 it’s a lot more onerous on the school board, frankly,
2:18:41 to set up an HSA, because once you do that, it’s gone for that
2:18:44 year.
2:18:44 Right.
2:18:45 But the, you know, the pluses and minuses are sometimes people
2:18:48 like to roll them over to the second year,
2:18:50 so, some of our school boards have said, well, we want people to
2:18:54 accumulate some large balances.
2:18:55 So, we don’t mind.
2:18:56 But, financially, it is more of a commitment to go the HSA route,
2:19:00 certainly for the board.
2:19:03 Thank you.
2:19:05 Just so you guys know, Anthony was in attendance, the new
2:19:07 president, and he actually gave compliments about the inside
2:19:11 resistance.
2:19:12 So, he felt confident.
2:19:13 We had people, my first representative to SIAC was very much
2:19:17 trying to get us to look at that,
2:19:20 but it’s such a big Rip the Band-Aid moment.
2:19:22 And we don’t have, and I don’t know what we had at the time, we
2:19:25 don’t have the board’s ability to put that good seed money,
2:19:29 which, for most people, $1,000 would be enough to cover your,
2:19:35 you know, assuming that, you know,
2:19:37 your well visits are still free, right?
2:19:38 Oh, yeah.
2:19:39 They’re well covered.
2:19:40 Your normal kid has an air infection or, you know, maybe even a
2:19:44 broken arm.
2:19:45 Most of the time, the $1,000 is going to be enough to cover what
2:19:48 you need.
2:19:49 It’s going to be our heavy users, who are probably already doing
2:19:54 their deductibles every year anyway.
2:19:56 But if we do have a model like People One, I don’t know if we’re
2:20:00 going to get them, but that,
2:20:02 they have so much connected to that, that you could almost not
2:20:08 go out of the People One model
2:20:11 and not have to touch your deductible, correct?
2:20:13 Yes.
2:20:14 Depending on what we choose.
2:20:15 Oh, yeah.
2:20:16 Yes.
2:20:17 After we watched the presentation, I asked to find, like, how
2:20:22 many people, in the event that this was set up,
2:20:26 would actually still be using money on the property, exactly as
2:20:28 what you’re saying.
2:20:29 Right.
2:20:30 How many people would be under 1,000 as a family of 500?
2:20:32 Because there are a lot of families that never even utilize our
2:20:36 health care system,
2:20:37 and that’s a large number, so they’re going to do that when they
2:20:40 come back.
2:20:41 The one thing you’ll notice about their presentations is the
2:20:44 transparency,
2:20:45 is what Anthony even mentioned in the last meeting.
2:20:48 Their numbers are 100% straight, and so when you see them, you’ll
2:20:52 say you’re not going to see a 13% increase anymore,
2:20:54 but I’ll tell you what it is.
2:20:57 That’s a good segue to the next slide.
2:21:00 Any other questions before we, and we can always come back.
2:21:03 So, let me skip that straight into my mind.
2:21:06 I’m cooking it up, sorry.
2:21:07 If we do, my bad.
2:21:08 There you go.
2:21:09 So, if we do the option on the right, it would definitely be an
2:21:14 HRA, not an HSA.
2:21:16 If we do the third column, we can do either one?
2:21:20 That’s correct.
2:21:21 Okay.
2:21:22 Yep.
2:21:23 All right, math.
2:21:26 So, this shows us projected total costs, and this is gross, for
2:21:30 employee contributions.
2:21:32 Of the current plan for 2026, $91.21 million.
2:21:37 The funding rates, which are the board contribution and what the
2:21:41 employees pay in, are projected to be $93 million.
2:21:44 We’ll see.
2:21:45 It’s early in the year, of course.
2:21:46 We have one month of that so far, but we’re projecting a close
2:21:50 surplus of $1.8 million at the end of the year.
2:21:53 The current employee deductions, because remember we have two
2:21:56 different deductions that employees pay depending on what the
2:21:59 plan is, are $19 million.
2:22:01 So, the net board cost is $73.91 million.
2:22:04 So, what we’ve done in our projections, then, status quo, all we’ve
2:22:11 done is project claims at a 7.5% combined inflation rate,
2:22:16 medical claims and pharmacy claims combined.
2:22:19 Historically, we’ve gone up 7-8% here, and we’re projecting that
2:22:23 to continue.
2:22:24 And fixed costs really aren’t changed that much.
2:22:28 There’s a little bit of additional clinic costs because the
2:22:31 clinic will have to add some people to handle all the physicals
2:22:35 and everybody going to a clinic for those wellness functions.
2:22:38 So, that’s already in this model.
2:22:41 So, status quo.
2:22:43 If we renew the current plans, no changes.
2:22:46 We don’t do these new plans that we’re talking about.
2:22:49 The run rate on that is $96 million, and budget funding $96
2:22:54 million.
2:22:55 We just, for this example, we said, okay, the board’s going to
2:22:58 fund what they’re currently funding.
2:23:00 So, a full increase would go to the employees and their
2:23:04 contributions.
2:23:05 You don’t have to do that.
2:23:06 This is just how we modeled it.
2:23:07 So, you know, the 20% of it.
2:23:09 You see the employee deductions going up pretty substantially
2:23:13 from 19 to 22 to keep the board flat over a year over a year.
2:23:17 Again, we don’t have to do that.
2:23:19 We don’t have to do that.
2:23:20 We can run all kinds of different models.
2:23:21 So, the board says, okay, we’ll do the same amount.
2:23:23 And then we can model it back for employees.
2:23:26 If you guys can, take a look at that percentage projected cost
2:23:30 increase.
2:23:31 3.5 or 3 to nothing.
2:23:33 Negative 1.2.
2:23:34 And then 1.1.
2:23:36 Those are numbers that are incredible.
2:23:38 Compared to other districts that are between 7 and 14% increases.
2:23:42 There’s nothing in place to try to steer them under control of
2:23:47 their homes.
2:23:49 There’s a lot of good things happening here.
2:23:51 You remember last time you saw me, we were talking about our
2:23:53 pharmacy savings that we generated from Cigna in our negotiation
2:23:57 for this year.
2:23:58 In ‘26, we found 1.1 million holding them accountable to the
2:24:02 market using the power of fleet.
2:24:04 So, that’s part of the reason you have a projected surplus this
2:24:08 year.
2:24:09 So, to Matt’s point, that helps as we go next year, if we end up
2:24:14 where we think we will.
2:24:15 That just takes kind of a bite out of some of the inflation.
2:24:19 So, what’s happening with these employee deductions?
2:24:26 Well, what we did, and we’ll show you the rates, is we just said,
2:24:30 for our models, with either one of these two new plans,
2:24:33 depending on which way you go,
2:24:34 let’s use the current silver plan employee contributions.
2:24:38 They’re lower.
2:24:40 So, that’s what’s going on here.
2:24:42 Well, that’s what’s happening.
2:24:43 So, the employee contributions are lower in total than they are
2:24:48 today.
2:24:49 So, that’s a strong message as you’re communicating the whole
2:24:54 plan.
2:24:55 And you have now the contract perpetuators coming in.
2:24:59 They’ll help communicate this message, get people to the plan.
2:25:03 So, it’s pretty strong.
2:25:05 Do these models, or which of these models include a new clinic
2:25:14 model?
2:25:15 The ALTS.
2:25:17 The two on the right.
2:25:18 Yeah.
2:25:19 So, those are that same ordering of, you know, this third one
2:25:22 you see over ALTS, high deductible
2:25:24 health plan.
2:25:25 That is the true high deductible health plan.
2:25:27 There’s no pharmacy codes A’s.
2:25:29 Right.
2:25:30 And so, the staff is going to do the same with Mariton and do
2:25:32 the same kind of…
2:25:33 Same thing you’re doing.
2:25:34 Yeah.
2:25:35 The same wellness between the Sigma and Mariton.
2:25:37 Yeah.
2:25:38 No changes.
2:25:39 There’s just nothing changes.
2:25:40 Should we look at employee rates?
2:25:45 These get really small.
2:25:50 Okay.
2:25:51 So, let me read the bottom line.
2:25:54 So, the left side is current.
2:25:56 So, you see the number enrolled in each of the tiers involved in
2:26:00 silver.
2:26:01 The total monthly rates.
2:26:03 What the employees pay.
2:26:05 Employees pay as a percentage of the total, which is interesting.
2:26:09 They’re paying 21% of the number there.
2:26:12 21% of the total.
2:26:14 We’re trying to get the fleet groups to give out 80-20, 80%
2:26:17 board, 20% employees.
2:26:19 So, you’re really close to that.
2:26:21 But, you see, we just take those silver contributions this year
2:26:28 and put them in the next year.
2:26:29 And that’s the contribution for that particular plan, which this
2:26:33 is the high deductible health plan.
2:26:35 This is the least expensive of the two models that we’re showing.
2:26:40 Yeah.
2:26:41 So, if you have someone who’s on gold.
2:26:43 So, I’m trying to recognize the reason why it’s going to gold
2:26:46 and silver is because we’re costing us more money.
2:26:52 The silver plans tend to be the people who are a little more
2:26:54 disciplined.
2:26:55 The board don’t need as much, right?
2:26:58 If we lump it all together, then the savings that the gold
2:27:06 people will realize would be money that they could spend on.
2:27:14 So, that’s when we’re just going to be hired.
2:27:16 Yeah.
2:27:17 And, yeah, notice all of the employee compositions end up going
2:27:22 down.
2:27:23 Yeah, thank you.
2:27:24 But, one of the anomalies that people don’t understand is that
2:27:27 they say that Health First costs more.
2:27:29 You see, if you talk to a lot of people, when you interview
2:27:32 people, if they don’t join, and they say, “Why do you go to
2:27:35 Health First?”
2:27:36 Because Health First has the cardiac ordinance and has all of
2:27:40 the things that high-cost claimants would go to.
2:27:43 So, there’s a, and we had Health First testify to that, that
2:27:47 they, the people that they seek out for more.
2:27:50 Health First, they have higher costs already.
2:27:53 So, it’s just one of those things.
2:27:55 Plus, it costs more money to have a hospital.
2:27:57 We know that it does that hospital.
2:27:59 That’s the other thing.
2:28:01 So, but all of them go there.
2:28:06 Yeah, so the board contribution 71 goes to 75.
2:28:13 So, about 1.8% off.
2:28:19 That’s including HRA, right?
2:28:24 Yes.
2:28:25 That’s right.
2:28:26 Yep.
2:28:27 Or HRA, depending on.
2:28:29 Right.
2:28:30 I, you know, I, for the district, especially considering funding
2:28:35 issues,
2:28:35 I think that HRA is, is, if use it or lose it, the type of model
2:28:42 is probably best if there’s a way to build in.
2:28:46 But you’ve done it at $1,000 per, say, I mean, with 500 per.
2:28:49 Yes.
2:28:50 Yeah.
2:28:51 The, the option you talked about, like, letting it roll over by
2:28:58 the extra year, is that, that’s a major rate you see that?
2:29:04 I was referring mainly to an HSA, but you put, I mean, you, you
2:29:07 set the rules in Florida.
2:29:09 Yeah.
2:29:10 So, you can, you can, you can let it roll and not, people
2:29:13 generally don’t, but you can.
2:29:16 You can.
2:29:18 If we don’t let it roll.
2:29:21 Okay.
2:29:22 Would that, obviously, lower the board costs.
2:29:24 Yes.
2:29:25 For the seed for the property.
2:29:27 If we don’t let it roll.
2:29:36 Right.
2:29:37 And you can use, you can use that on the stuff that your
2:29:40 insurance plan.
2:29:41 Like, you know, if your kid gets braces, you know, you can, you
2:29:46 can save up.
2:29:47 Braces cost a lot of money.
2:29:48 Right.
2:29:49 A lot of money.
2:29:51 You know.
2:29:52 That was medical.
2:29:53 Medical, not medical.
2:29:54 But on the HSA, you can use it for anything.
2:29:56 Or anybody.
2:29:57 HSA.
2:29:58 Right.
2:29:59 But on the HRA account.
2:30:00 Because I got my FSA.
2:30:01 Yeah.
2:30:02 Sorry.
2:30:03 I’m flying around right now.
2:30:04 No.
2:30:05 Yeah.
2:30:06 It helps reimbursement account.
2:30:07 We want to just tie it to the medical.
2:30:08 Okay.
2:30:09 Right back now.
2:30:10 Okay.
2:30:12 Because that’s what I think.
2:30:13 I don’t want people to save up.
2:30:14 Yeah.
2:30:15 Because if you’re down the road, I can, you know, pay for
2:30:18 everybody to teach it.
2:30:19 This is incredible.
2:30:20 Instead of having seven to eight percent increases.
2:30:22 The number one pocket can consider now.
2:30:24 about 15, 40 degrees.
2:30:25 And all of a sudden, loan hold.
2:30:26 You get back down to four o’clock.
2:30:27 But they’re doing something that directs people to get care for
2:30:30 the person.
2:30:31 All right.
2:30:32 Yeah.
2:30:33 All right.
2:30:35 And what we’ll see is a couple of other details.
2:30:39 Okay.
2:30:40 We have this wellness, non-wellness deductible.
2:30:42 All right.
2:30:43 The first year, we’re going to start everybody off with a
2:30:46 wellness deductible loan.
2:30:48 But we want to give them a compliance period where they go into
2:30:51 the clinic and they get set
2:30:52 up on the program to qualify for next year.
2:30:57 So what they would be qualifying for is wellness or non-wellness
2:31:01 for 2028.
2:31:04 So I want to clarify.
2:31:05 We need to be wellness or non-wellness.
2:31:06 What does that mean?
2:31:07 But I mean, are you defined what that is?
2:31:10 Yeah, lower or higher deductible.
2:31:11 Okay.
2:31:12 So you’ve got to move to 4,000 or 6,000.
2:31:14 Is this model including that often?
2:31:16 Because that’s going to be a lot more open.
2:31:19 Yeah.
2:31:20 It’s in there.
2:31:21 Okay.
2:31:22 Yeah, we assumed everybody’s at the 4,000.
2:31:24 Okay.
2:31:26 For the first year.
2:31:28 Right.
2:31:29 Can you control that?
2:31:34 Is that people in the waiting room?
2:31:36 Yeah, that’s my finance guy.
2:31:38 He’s okay.
2:31:39 Okay.
2:31:40 We’re going to change the numbers.
2:31:42 I think the selling point for our members here.
2:31:47 This is for the 2027 plan year.
2:31:49 These are the monthly contributions to our members.
2:31:52 What they did is they took the silver plans monthly contribution
2:31:59 to the top.
2:31:59 So we have right around half of our employees are on gold, half
2:32:05 of them on silver.
2:32:06 So about for half of our employees, we only have 164 boys all
2:32:10 the way down monthly contribution
2:32:11 to 116.
2:32:12 Pretty big movement.
2:32:15 It is.
2:32:16 And that’s almost 80% of what people have.
2:32:18 Look at the family.
2:32:19 They paid 16.
2:32:20 Yeah.
2:32:21 This is pretty good news.
2:32:23 It is.
2:32:24 It died.
2:32:25 And the silver isn’t going up.
2:32:27 Normally it’s not as good news.
2:32:29 But it’s been deductible.
2:32:30 The movement of the deductible helps.
2:32:33 And that’s what it’s happening.
2:32:35 And while it has been a move, again, the focus is people’s
2:32:40 active.
2:32:42 Right.
2:32:43 And we’re most concerned usually about some of the low-day
2:32:47 employees.
2:32:48 We really want them.
2:32:49 They can get a free generic.
2:32:50 They can get a low-cost.
2:32:51 I think the main method that needs to be really delivered to our
2:32:56 staff is if we move this
2:32:58 direction, how amazing these clinics are.
2:33:00 We’ve got to experience all the things that I’ve done.
2:33:03 I think that’s probably what was in this with the marathon thing.
2:33:16 I would not utilize that.
2:33:18 They didn’t have the ability to do that.
2:33:20 So in this case, the way we understood the clinic model, this
2:33:24 particular clinic model we
2:33:24 looked at is you go in and you’ve got messed up sugar and they’ve
2:33:28 got to send you to physical
2:33:31 therapy.
2:33:32 It’s still covered under that clinic model because they’re
2:33:36 partnering with it.
2:33:38 So you’re not then playing physical therapy co-pays, but you
2:33:40 would outside of that.
2:33:42 I think there’s a point like, and then because we have, assuming
2:33:46 we continue our contract with
2:33:48 what’s the surgery?
2:33:49 What is it?
2:33:50 Lantern.
2:33:52 So if that same person goes to physical therapy, doesn’t get
2:33:56 better, which they could
2:33:57 be through bench helpers, they could go get their surgery
2:33:59 through surgery club, which
2:34:00 is also free, and then refers it back to the clinic to do the
2:34:04 follow-up stuff.
2:34:05 They could do a lot.
2:34:07 Maybe not cancer, maybe not something, but they could do a lot
2:34:10 and stay in that clinic model.
2:34:13 I think the success point from this hinges on having an amazing
2:34:17 clinic model.
2:34:18 Right.
2:34:19 And I’m assuming you guys are still getting there with that.
2:34:23 Yeah.
2:34:24 We’re all working together on that actually.
2:34:25 Okay.
2:34:26 Yeah.
2:34:27 Okay.
2:34:28 Right.
2:34:29 Sleep was actually, weren’t you talking about it?
2:34:30 In the clinics and the clinic model for all the safety, we’re
2:34:31 kind of ranking them as
2:34:32 .
2:34:33 Okay.
2:34:34 All right.
2:34:35 I was going to say, I remember you mentioned the years.
2:34:36 But it’s going to have to be something like that.
2:34:38 Yeah.
2:34:39 Most people don’t get that, those higher deductibles, unless
2:34:44 they have ongoing heart
2:34:46 things, or cancer, or major surgery.
2:34:49 Yeah.
2:34:52 Okay.
2:34:53 Gentleman.
2:34:54 Go ahead.
2:34:56 So this will say, the premium productions, you know, they’re
2:34:59 saving money in the paychecks,
2:35:01 as opposed to having older deductibles.
2:35:02 Right.
2:35:03 So I always, I’ll always keep that gamble.
2:35:05 I’d rather have more money in my takeout pay than the
2:35:07 possibility I might have to pay.
2:35:10 Right.
2:35:11 So that’s kind of the thought process.
2:35:12 Well, and I do feel like we’ve built, we, because of the changes
2:35:15 we’ve made, and we went
2:35:17 from like, just, you just have to do a negative full annual exam,
2:35:20 not just biometrics.
2:35:21 Right.
2:35:22 I think we’ve kind of built people up to that expectation that
2:35:24 you’re going to have to take
2:35:26 charge of your wellness, and if you want to save money, do
2:35:28 things, you know, that you
2:35:30 need to do.
2:35:31 Yeah.
2:35:32 This is, this is the, the segue, that’s the wellness.
2:35:35 Well, you go in, you go in for your annual clinic visit, you
2:35:40 start up here, clinic visit,
2:35:43 completion of the health risk appraisal with a nurse
2:35:45 practitioner.
2:35:46 And they look at that, and then they set you up on your
2:35:49 compliance program.
2:35:50 Throughout the compliance period, if you can maintain blood
2:35:53 pressure below the 130, you
2:35:55 get a point.
2:35:56 The idea is here is we want seven out of 10 points out of this
2:35:59 scale.
2:36:00 If you’re a non-tobacco user, and there’ll be a tobacco test at
2:36:04 the clinic.
2:36:05 All right.
2:36:06 Now it’s, now it’s, I think the honor system is something to do.
2:36:11 I think the issue is, you won’t believe, we’ve debated that a
2:36:15 really long time, not whether
2:36:17 we’re going to do like so much tests.
2:36:19 And there, there could be some noise around this.
2:36:21 Well, I mean, tell the truth.
2:36:24 It’s worth three points.
2:36:25 Right.
2:36:26 It’s worth three points.
2:36:27 It’s worth eight shares.
2:36:28 That’s right.
2:36:29 Moisturize, weight circumference, those are all the things that
2:36:32 really, you know, as we look
2:36:33 at diabetes and cancer, these are the things that really are so
2:36:36 important to catch really.
2:36:38 So seven to 10, you get the lower deductible, zero to six, you
2:36:41 get the higher deductible
2:36:43 plan.
2:36:44 Okay.
2:36:45 So the wellness, non-wellness.
2:36:46 So this is how you get there.
2:36:47 This is not how many are.
2:36:50 It’s not just having a physical.
2:36:51 See, the problem with having a physical is great.
2:36:53 I love it.
2:36:54 But then, then what?
2:36:55 What do we do?
2:36:56 Yeah.
2:36:57 How do we improve your health?
2:36:58 Well, this is where the nurse coach comes in and puts you on
2:37:00 that path.
2:37:01 Yeah.
2:37:02 And so what’s exciting is we see the reports every month that
2:37:05 come in from the clinic and we
2:37:07 see people’s health risks going down.
2:37:10 Oh, it’s stuck to a global.
2:37:11 Yeah.
2:37:12 If we can prevent them from going up, we’ve really been
2:37:13 successful.
2:37:14 Yeah.
2:37:15 So if we can see them coming down, that’ll impact your ultimate
2:37:18 five, ten-year cost.
2:37:20 And that’s what we’re trying to do.
2:37:22 Yeah.
2:37:23 And you give five points.
2:37:24 They’re out of the gap.
2:37:25 They’re not doing this.
2:37:26 Okay.
2:37:27 Yeah.
2:37:28 They’re almost there.
2:37:29 Yeah.
2:37:30 You’re almost at the lower deductible.
2:37:31 And for people that can’t do these things, we make reasonable
2:37:33 accommodations.
2:37:34 There’s coaching.
2:37:35 There’s other things that people can do that can’t.
2:37:37 Because that’s what the law says we have to do.
2:37:39 So it’s a legit bonus program.
2:37:43 And then let’s back up to the last slide.
2:37:46 This makes more sense as to why we’re giving them a whole year
2:37:49 to get into compliance.
2:37:50 Yeah.
2:37:51 Because that’d be hard to do.
2:37:53 We get time obviously.
2:37:54 Yeah.
2:37:55 We were talking to Ryan about how quickly we ramp this up and do
2:37:58 it.
2:37:58 No.
2:37:59 We just want to give them the benefit of the doubt.
2:38:01 And then you really get them on the right path.
2:38:03 It’s a $50 per paper.
2:38:05 It’s a $50 right now.
2:38:06 Yeah.
2:38:07 You get $2.50 right now?
2:38:09 Not per paper.
2:38:10 Oh, not for production for one time.
2:38:12 Yeah.
2:38:13 It’s just an idea that there’s no testing.
2:38:15 There’s hard to work for it.
2:38:17 Now there’s going to be testing.
2:38:18 I don’t have a problem with that.
2:38:19 And I think we have, again, something that we kind of slowly –
2:38:29 we had this discussion
2:38:32 a few years ago with SIAC.
2:38:33 I was like, “Whoo!”
2:38:34 So I think we’re getting –
2:38:35 I think we’re going to get some touch back on this.
2:38:38 We’re getting that.
2:38:39 This gets people in to do this.
2:38:42 You kind of play with this long enough and you come up with the
2:38:46 right map.
2:38:47 Yeah.
2:38:48 People are motivated, unfortunately, by something maybe painful.
2:38:52 So they’re looking at $100 a month.
2:38:54 Yeah.
2:38:55 If people use, like, patches and things like that, does that –
2:38:59 does it get positive or whatever?
2:39:01 They can work around, yeah.
2:39:04 Yeah.
2:39:05 Because then they’re hopefully on a cessation program.
2:39:08 Why?
2:39:09 So then, you know, if you’re on a cessation program, they’re
2:39:12 successful.
2:39:13 They get this – they actually get the money refunded.
2:39:16 So once they go off nicotine, you know, this $100 that they paid
2:39:20 a month, it’s actually a refund.
2:39:23 Okay.
2:39:24 Oh, good.
2:39:25 And we hope that happens.
2:39:26 You know, we hope people are able to do that.
2:39:28 It’s refunded.
2:39:29 Say that again.
2:39:30 They go off of it and then it’s –
2:39:31 Yeah, that’s refunded.
2:39:33 So how would they – they would have to stay at the end?
2:39:35 Yeah.
2:39:36 And then –
2:39:37 And prove them.
2:39:38 Did you say refunded, you mean we’re going to give them back the
2:39:40 money that we’ve already
2:39:41 collected or we’re going to stop buying the money this year?
2:39:44 The money we’ve already collected.
2:39:45 Yeah.
2:39:46 That’s annoying.
2:39:47 Yeah.
2:39:48 I was going to say, like, what time period?
2:39:49 How would you install?
2:39:50 It’s just when you started.
2:39:51 That’s what we do now, right?
2:39:52 Yeah.
2:39:53 We do that now.
2:39:54 Oh, wow.
2:39:55 All right.
2:39:56 That’s the administration of this program.
2:39:58 Well, like, how do you prove when they stop smoking?
2:40:00 So what if they’re, like, we smoke for six months of the year.
2:40:02 I quit.
2:40:03 Yeah, yeah, I passed.
2:40:04 Now I want the six months, you know, approved.
2:40:06 Yeah.
2:40:07 These tests are pretty good.
2:40:08 Okay.
2:40:09 All right.
2:40:10 Good question.
2:40:11 And that’s it.
2:40:12 So I want to use it to make sure that we have a trip with them
2:40:15 moving forward.
2:40:16 And obviously, honestly, we’ve been trying to get this, but we’ve
2:40:24 been told different things
2:40:25 but they need something to turn off.
2:40:28 And we’ll have all of those percentages there.
2:40:30 I think that would happen in the industry, in the industry.
2:40:32 There’s a lot too much.
2:40:33 That’s good.
2:40:34 I’m so grateful for that.
2:40:36 I’m grateful for that.
2:40:38 If we could get those models right, that’s what makes it work.
2:40:41 Well, I do agree.
2:40:42 I think that the success of this really hinges on the clinic
2:40:46 model being a solid clinic model.
2:40:48 That’s, I mean, we’ve got to pump that out with our employees,
2:40:50 like, for you to make sure
2:40:51 that they understand.
2:40:52 The new design should be ready.
2:40:55 One, one, twenty-five.
2:40:57 How is that?
2:40:58 Well, I’m just asking a question.
2:40:59 Well, they told us they only needed three or four months.
2:41:02 Yep.
2:41:03 Many fees exist.
2:41:04 They exist.
2:41:05 Right.
2:41:06 And then they can build from there.
2:41:07 They were going to have to build on.
2:41:08 If people want to know, what do we have?
2:41:10 Three.
2:41:11 If they were selected, they do it in six to five.
2:41:15 Two, three, thirty.
2:41:16 Okay.
2:41:17 But there’s, there’s all of them.
2:41:18 You definitely need it.
2:41:19 I think some people are going to want some, you can’t remember
2:41:23 those.
2:41:24 I need to remind the board that it’s a mandatory bargaining
2:41:28 thing as well.
2:41:29 Right.
2:41:30 But it sounds like Anthony’s already, like.
2:41:32 Yeah.
2:41:33 I think they just saw it.
2:41:34 I think they saw that.
2:41:35 What is it?
2:41:36 He wasn’t in that.
2:41:39 That’s right.
2:41:40 He saw it.
2:41:42 He saw these financials.
2:41:43 He was in that.
2:41:44 Okay.
2:41:45 Thank you.
2:41:48 People get those premiums.
2:41:50 And for the work that fleets do.
2:41:52 You guys are doing an amazing job.
2:41:53 I took it and said you’re probably not loved amongst the
2:41:55 insurance provider world.
2:41:57 Because you come in and kind of really, you know, what a shame.
2:42:00 That’s right.
2:42:01 You have to do the right thing.
2:42:02 You’re not doing the right thing.
2:42:03 I lost the foot.
2:42:04 There you go.
2:42:05 Well, I’m sorry for that.
2:42:06 That’s how we feel about it.
2:42:08 Yeah.
2:42:09 But thank you for the work.
2:42:10 All right, you guys.
2:42:12 So, as part of this, John said that we could all do that.
2:42:17 Is that it?
2:42:18 So, I’m heading over there.
2:42:19 I think he’s paying.
2:42:20 Oh.
2:42:21 Yeah.
2:42:22 I’m good to report that as a gift.
2:42:24 Yeah.
2:42:25 Well, I did not.
2:42:26 $550, right?
2:42:27 I think he’s got it.
2:42:29 I’m heading over there.
2:42:30 I’m going to have to do that.
2:42:31 Thank you so much.
2:42:32 I appreciate you having some time.
2:42:33 Thank you so much.
2:42:35 I appreciate you having some time.
2:42:36 We have a really nice, like, riverside.
2:42:39 Susan.
2:42:40 Is that what it is?
2:42:41 Yep.
2:42:42 Yeah, that’s it.
2:42:43 Roger that.
2:42:44 I’ll go have a conversation with you.
2:42:48 By the way.
2:42:49 But yeah.
2:42:51 It used to be something else.
2:42:52 And then the word was.