Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL
0:00 » All right, guys, so thank you so much for coming.
0:03 Thank you for coming to the facility, it was really nice to
0:06 appreciate that.
0:08 I’ll be the guest who showed up today.
0:10 We’ve got a number of things that are going to be on here.
0:12 We’re just going to try to get it wrapped up.
0:14 I apologize if you don’t have any issues with that.
0:16 Basically, it needs to come down to basically a review from
0:20 previous projects
0:22 that we actually initiated to make sure that they’re all online.
0:26 And then basically taking our school board, as far as the
0:31 functions of it and
0:32 how we’ve been working, just kind of solidifying that into a
0:35 point.
0:36 So meaning that we’re going to talk today about how we want the
0:40 budgets to look,
0:41 how we want calendars to look, and how that looks as far as in
0:45 the future,
0:45 how we can utilize a little bit more organizational work.
0:49 And then at the end, we’re going to leave the three questions in
0:54 time.
0:54 We’re going to go over what they’re doing right now, so
0:58 that if they have any questions, they can ask it.
1:00 And like I said, they presented earlier this week.
1:03 They thought that they would need to present to the rest of you
1:06 guys before
1:06 they move forward with some of the stuff to get paid, something
1:08 to tell them about.
1:09 » Are they here for a visit in here, or are they-
1:11 » There’s one of them’s coming here.
1:13 » Okay.
1:13 » And then there’s two of them on that thing.
1:15 » Okay. » I’m not sure which one to which.
1:17 » Okay. » All right.
1:18 All right, so the first topic that we have is,
1:21 we had some review from a first initial offsite that we had.
1:25 We all said that we have some projects that we wanted to work on.
1:29 I’m telling you to talk about a recent project.
1:33 Ms. Wright, you talked about your calendar, right?
1:37 And you talked about the illustrator things.
1:40 And Dr. Bell and I worked for the last couple of weeks to make
1:43 sure that those
1:44 were up to speed, and had a list of them.
1:46 And there’s a whole bunch of them that are going to go over, but
1:49 I’m just going to walk through them if you guys have questions.
1:51 Just to make sure we’re on pace, and we can discuss them.
1:54 » Thank you, Chair, what I’m gonna do is just run through some
1:58 of the initiatives
1:59 that each of the board members brought up at the last offsite
2:02 and where we’re at.
2:03 So, part of Ms. Wright, she wanted to make sure that we were on
2:08 target to launch open gate at all middle schools next year.
2:12 And we’re on target for that.
2:14 We actually work on the purchase order for the new units for all
2:20 the middle schools.
2:20 And we will roll that out in a phase, roll out like we did with
2:25 the high schools.
2:27 High schools, we did one at a time over a period of several
2:29 middle schools.
2:29 That should be two at a time.
2:31 It’ll be a shorter time frame, but all set through that.
2:36 We’ll have training for the middle school principals at the next
2:39 principals meeting.
2:40 But then also training as we get over the next school year with
2:44 the staff
2:45 at the last commanding station, so I’m on target for that.
2:49 As Mr. Susan mentioned, Mrs. Wright just talked about a modified
2:53 calendar.
2:54 And so we have a survey that we’re going to issue to the staff
2:59 at calendar seven.
3:01 We believe staff are a good barometer as to the advantages and
3:05 disadvantages of the modified calendar, so after we get the
3:10 results of that survey,
3:13 then we can use that information to develop some other materials
3:18 that
3:18 could be like another survey to the staff at the rest of our
3:22 schools and
3:23 see if they’re interested, and also to talk about surveying the
3:27 community as a whole.
3:28 » Dr. McDuff, my real class subject, one of the hurdles to the
3:32 modified
3:32 calendar that we had faced with the district was the legislation
3:36 that ties our
3:37 hands on when we can start school with the August 10th school
3:39 start date.
3:40 But one of the possible ways to be exempt from that was being a
3:44 district of
3:44 academic excellence, if I’m understanding correctly.
3:47 So there’s a process to apply for that for our district to do so,
3:50 and
3:50 that takes place during the summertime.
3:52 When that window opens up, can I just please, that’d be a
3:55 priority for
3:55 our district to go ahead and apply for that.
3:57 We should already be doing it because we’ve achieved the A for
4:00 the past few years but that is a way that we could possibly work
4:03 around.
4:04 This legislation doesn’t change.
4:05 » Yeah, we already went on.
4:07 » Thank you.
4:08 All right, thank you.
4:10 » And Dr. McDuff, just so everybody understands, we’re not
4:12 talking about
4:13 any modified calendar for any elementary school for next year.
4:16 » No. » We’re in the process of doing that.
4:18 » It’s flourishing, right.
4:20 » One of the questions I had is, is that we’re gonna survey the
4:22 staff at the school.
4:24 Would we be interested in possibly putting together surveys of
4:27 the parents
4:28 of that school?
4:29 » Yeah, we wanna see what the staff has to say.
4:32 What are the advantages they see from a pedagogical standpoint,
4:36 instruction and
4:37 things that staff were very interested in returning to the
4:43 modified calendar.
4:44 So they had experience, a lot of experience within the past.
4:47 So I wanna hear from them what the advantages are.
4:50 » I think it would be good that I went after the family this
4:52 fall,
4:52 because we saw some of the families, and I say so.
4:54 I think we lost maybe 30 or 40 families that went to different
4:58 schools.
4:58 And they’re still in Fort Payne-John’s feeder chain there.
5:01 They ended up coming back after the fact, and they raved about
5:04 it.
5:04 But it took them a minute to realize that this calendar is not
5:07 what they
5:07 thought it was.
5:08 So when they came back, they were very explicit.
5:10 So I would say we should, I agree with some of the staff.
5:13 But if you’re okay with it, why not survey the families as well?
5:16 Cuz that feedback is gonna be imperative if we move anything
5:19 forward.
5:20 » Well, I mean, I feel like if the families weren’t happy with
5:23 it,
5:23 they wouldn’t stay, cuz they have the option to go somewhere
5:26 else.
5:26 I’ll be interested to see the academic data when we come back at
5:29 the end of this
5:30 year, because the whole situation would be more compelling if we
5:33 saw results better
5:34 than what we saw.
5:35 And we haven’t seen significantly improved results or improved
5:38 results at all.
5:39 So I, again, just one year, so it’s hard to make a difference
5:43 there.
5:44 But I can get the academic data this year, because I feel like
5:47 if we’re gonna make
5:48 such a huge adjustment, it would be, since academics are our
5:51 focus,
5:51 it would be good to have compelling data.
5:53 » I agree.
5:55 100%, I have expressed this frustration with the leadership at
5:58 this school
5:58 specifically, because they’ve had some programs that are
6:01 targeted really for
6:02 the students that are struggling academically.
6:04 But those are the kids that are putting in the programs when we’re
6:06 on
6:06 the intersession.
6:07 So the focus, yeah, so that’s one of the frustrations.
6:10 It’s like, great, you’re wearing these pants, and we’re having
6:13 this,
6:13 we’re really trying to focus in on bringing out those school
6:16 grades, obviously.
6:16 Because you have more time available after those kids that we
6:19 identified are struggling
6:20 throughout the school year.
6:21 And unfortunately, for whatever reason, I don’t know if it’s the
6:24 families just refused
6:25 to participate, or there wasn’t a heavy emphasis from the school
6:29 leadership
6:29 standpoint.
6:30 But the kids that were involved in those were not the kids
6:32 engaged to be in there.
6:33 So it didn’t move the needle like it was supposed to move the
6:35 needle.
6:35 But I’m gonna blame that somewhat to the fact that the
6:38 leadership at the school
6:39 didn’t really heavily focus on making sure that the kids that
6:41 needed the additional
6:42 help were getting it.
6:43 And I hate that this is nice, but I can say that that is really
6:46 what I believe
6:46 the whole statute is.
6:48 It literally is the only true way to see the gains inside of a
6:52 model that
6:52 calendar is to take those intercessions and really work into
6:55 those students.
6:56 Dr. Endo, can you find a little hurdle up there to kind of block
7:01 that?
7:01 Yep, I think that’s enough.
7:04 Are you gonna look at the survey before they go out to make sure
7:06 we’re good?
7:07 » I think the board is a whole thing.
7:08 Can we see the survey prior to it being issued off to all the
7:11 south?
7:11 » Sure. » Okay.
7:12 » All right, all right, so the next thing that Mrs.
7:16 Wright talked about was looking at some numbers of the students
7:21 you were stating,
7:22 extracurricular activities, primarily sports to see if their
7:26 attendance is higher.
7:28 If they’re greater or higher, stuff like that.
7:30 We have national statistics that show that.
7:33 But Mr. Robinson is putting together a mechanism to gather all
7:38 that data.
7:39 » I think- » He is working on it.
7:40 » Right. » Something that in the future [INAUDIBLE]
7:44 » Well, I mean, we’ve basically showed for
7:46 the last two years all the students who participated in sports.
7:50 This was their average attendance, this was their average GPA,
7:54 stuff like that.
7:55 And see if that was higher than the average student overall.
8:02 » It would be really easy to look for music students,
8:04 because those classes they’re enrolled in and that’s in focus.
8:07 So you don’t have to, the sports activities they’re involved in
8:10 are not
8:11 necessarily in focus as far as that.
8:12 We can pull those co-curricular classes pretty easily.
8:15 » Yeah. » Music by far is one of the strongest
8:21 sports I think does, but anybody participating in music has
8:25 always been
8:26 [INAUDIBLE] » So that was it for Mrs. Wright.
8:31 When we moved on to Mr. Trent, there were three, we were working
8:35 on one.
8:35 Blake County has what, alternative hours high school is kind of
8:40 how it was
8:42 introduced to us at the school board back in December.
8:47 Mr. Raymer has checked into that, he’s talked to the officials
8:51 in Lake County.
8:53 He and Mrs. Harris are actually going to visit the school over
8:57 spring break.
8:58 And I don’t want to necessarily downplay, but
9:04 it does not appear to be much different than things we already
9:09 do.
9:09 But we still wouldn’t be able to get to school.
9:12 It is an old school that they’ve turned into kind of like the
9:16 Texan Center.
9:17 That’s similar to what we’re doing at Fair Lake, we’ve built
9:20 that.
9:20 And so the students can come there as part of the day to their
9:23 academics.
9:24 And also part of the day to do some detective training.
9:28 But it’s not what we thought it was, so.
9:33 » So we’re looking at a high school and saying we’re gonna run
9:36 a high school
9:36 at 4 PM to 9 PM, I’m just starting to push out there, that’s
9:40 kind of what we thought.
9:41 » That’s kind of what we thought.
9:43 » Right, but it’s not looking like it’s that.
9:45 » It does appear to be that.
9:46 » Okay. » So we’re just gonna turn and go and-
9:49 » Is there any county in the state,
9:52 I mean, that has something where there’s just different hours.
9:55 » I don’t know.
9:56 » We used to have whispering health.
9:57 It was more so because I got in trouble, obviously.
9:59 » Well, in Martin County, when I was working in Central County,
10:03 Martin County’s right next door, one of the things they did is
10:07 they had adult ed.
10:09 To form a program, not PD, at their high schools at 19.
10:14 And once you’re 16, you can put you off on regular enrollment
10:18 and go to that.
10:19 » Right, which we have that, but not at our high schools.
10:22 » Yeah, we already have that, but we don’t have it at every
10:25 high school.
10:25 We do in Martin County.
10:27 » Okay.
10:28 » [INAUDIBLE]
10:58 » We will give schools if they have an opening to secondary
11:02 schools.
11:03 They have an opening for a ten month assistant principal, and
11:06 they want you to be like this position instead, and we’ll give
11:10 them an option.
11:11 So it could be someone who hasn’t finished their leadership
11:15 degree that’s on their
11:16 way to that, so they can get in the position sooner.
11:20 Or it could be someone that doesn’t want to pursue that
11:22 leadership degree, but
11:24 the principal and leadership team think it would be a good fit
11:28 for a dean.
11:28 [INAUDIBLE]
11:34 » How long has that been that way for Martin County?
11:36 Cuz I feel like it wasn’t always that way, that dean positions
11:40 were part of.
11:40 » Well, it’s 96, at least, but that’s not- » Really?
11:44 » It was an assistant principal who had to have their
11:48 leadership,
11:48 had to have their certification, so.
11:50 » It’s more of a practice in what they call them,
11:53 it works with deans, but they’ve always been an assistant
11:56 principal.
11:57 » Correct, and again, what I worked at San Jose County,
12:01 the dean was a teacher on assignment, and he’s not a, that didn’t
12:05 require a teacher.
12:06 » Okay, good question.
12:08 » So it’s not uncommon, we just provide that piece that long.
12:11 So it would be another option for
12:14 filling a position that is pretty impactful in a school.
12:19 And it could be that there’s a coach or
12:21 something that really has a skill set to be a good role model
12:26 for kids and
12:26 be in a different position than teaching in a classroom.
12:31 So this means more teacher evaluations for the other
12:35 administrators.
12:38 This person would not be licensed to be teacher evaluations.
12:41 But the board might remember that two years ago,
12:46 in negotiations with [INAUDIBLE] we worked out where experienced
12:52 teachers
12:53 who have highly effective evaluations over the last sort of
12:58 three years.
12:59 They don’t need a classroom observation, they just have to do an
13:02 evaluation.
13:02 So the number of times administrators have to use a classroom to
13:06 observe has been
13:07 reduced, so there could be a trade-off.
13:10 If you want to add this position instead of an administrator,
13:16 the license position that you know you’re gonna have is
13:20 principle or
13:21 it’s a principle or observations, but again, we reduce the
13:25 number of observations.
13:27 » So it just widens the- » Yeah, it just widens the pool for
13:30 sure.
13:31 And again, I see it more as someone who maybe has to finish
13:34 their leadership yet
13:36 or wants to try it out, see if they want to spend their money,
13:40 masters.
13:41 So it’s just another tool in the toolbox.
13:43 » So the job you’re describing you’re talking about won’t
13:46 necessarily require
13:47 a master’s degree?
13:47 » Correct. » Okay, good.
13:50 » Okay, and again, it’s gonna come before the board to be a
13:54 person anyway.
13:55 And then the last thing he mentioned was more training for our
13:59 needs and
13:59 other assistant principals, especially our elementary assistant
14:03 principals.
14:04 They don’t necessarily get any training, but
14:06 they’re typically the ones that we explain at elementary school.
14:09 So more training just to make sure that they understand how to
14:14 enforce code
14:14 conduct and that kind of thing, and how to handle different
14:18 situations.
14:19 So we’ve already added more training this year, and
14:23 we have a full day of training in August when they return.
14:28 That means a half day or so increase in training.
14:33 She told us a couple of things, security, he talked about some
14:40 more
14:44 deep training on security issues, especially security issues
14:47 like when a weapon’s
14:48 involved and stuff like that.
14:50 So we’ve already worked with the sheriff’s department and
14:51 we’ve already increased some of the training.
14:53 For example, the training that the administrators will receive
14:57 next month at
14:58 the LTM focuses a lot on the open-made security system and
15:03 how to handle situations when the open gate light goes off, that
15:08 kind of thing.
15:10 It’s having the open gate at our high schools has proven to be
15:13 effective.
15:14 We have secured weapons each and last, this year and last year.
15:19 And we just want to make sure our staff know what to do in those
15:23 situations.
15:24 We did the initial training a year and a half ago.
15:27 And some of the people manning those stations were not in the
15:29 initial training.
15:30 So we need to make sure, so we’re doing that.
15:34 » Thank you for that.
15:35 » Appreciate that.
15:37 Talked about having volunteers be trained to go in and
15:41 read to elementary school kids.
15:43 And he had recruited a cadre of retired teachers and
15:47 other volunteers for some schools in his area.
15:50 So they received training.
15:52 This is, Harris’s crew has developed a standard training.
15:56 So we offer periodically, every quarter, to volunteers to come
16:00 in and read.
16:01 So this is a nice structured training program.
16:04 Really, after we did the training with Mr. Thomas’s group,
16:07 we decided this is something we’ll do quarterly.
16:10 So all of the elementary schools are given that information to
16:15 share with their PTOs.
16:16 So if they have parents who are volunteers that want to actually
16:20 be trained in how to
16:21 come in and help kids with literacy skills, we have that in
16:24 place.
16:24 One thing we mentioned that we really haven’t worked on is
16:29 utilizing
16:29 some of our open space at schools to do some CTE type of
16:34 partnerships with
16:35 local industry, really try and see that really would only be
16:40 appropriate
16:41 at the middle or high school level.
16:43 And most of our high schools don’t have a lot of empty space.
16:48 They don’t know what’s around the world, they can use almost all
16:51 those spaces.
16:52 So we’re still looking at it, just not sure whether it’s
16:56 something like that.
17:00 And Mrs. Campbell, and it wasn’t just Mrs. Campbell, I think,
17:04 but
17:04 there has been discussion about our elementary system festivals
17:08 are on
17:09 a ten month contract, and we typically require a lot of them to
17:13 help over
17:13 the summer, run summer school.
17:15 They end up getting paid a stipend to come in and help.
17:18 So we’ve developed an 11 month contract for system principles.
17:23 If we were to put all of our system principles on an 11 month
17:27 contract,
17:28 that would cost half a million dollars.
17:32 » So what is the stipend, what are we paying in front of us?
17:35 » Only about 150 to 175 bucks.
17:39 It’s not all in one summer school, but not all of them.
17:44 And the amount is less than [INAUDIBLE] So when we do one of our
17:49 presentations later this spring, we’ll show you exactly the cost
17:55 and what that is.
17:56 So is it worth doing, I think?
18:01 So we’ll bring that back and set the topic.
18:05 » [INAUDIBLE] » Yeah,
18:09 it’s on one of these offices, but- » [INAUDIBLE]
18:16 » [INAUDIBLE]
18:25 » If that’s with, like- » And there’s more, there’s more than
18:29 56, because overall, our elementary schools have two 10 months.
18:33 » Right, but we were only talking about- » Well, we have one.
18:36 » Doing one, right, so even with, does that have a land include
18:41 subtracting out?
18:43 We were already paying- » Yeah, that was in that cost.
18:46 » In that cost?
18:46 » Yeah, so we will show it to you, right to you.
18:51 » Wow.
18:54 » This may not be the time to do it.
18:56 » Yeah, I mean, if we’re doing all the things we’re doing, yeah,
19:00 I mean,
19:00 it’s a need, but yeah, timing is bad.
19:03 » We scrambled to public summer school, especially when we want
19:07 to take
19:07 the principals, and be training with them during that time.
19:11 » [INAUDIBLE] » On your list was to
19:17 modify the policy evaluation, and modify your work.
19:23 I’m not really involved in that.
19:24 » You’re all set.
19:25 » Okay, I’ll do that.
19:26 » I’m kind of, I gotta get involved for it, get back to the
19:31 video,
19:31 to see, make sure I have everything.
19:34 » Okay, so you’re doing that?
19:36 » I’m revising it in, and working with the institution, too.
19:39 » Yeah, we’ve been working on it to make sure that whatever the
19:43 conversations that
19:43 everybody had is inside of it, and then they’ll bring it to each
19:47 one of you when
19:47 it’s complete, so that you guys can take a look at it, yep.
19:51 And there’s nothing in there that is in, there’s not a headache
19:55 on either Paul’s
19:55 side or our side with anything that we’ve done so far.
19:59 » No, I’m excited about the fun that will be coming up for us.
20:01 I mean, it’s any work, it’s not a matter of how we get back to
20:04 it or not.
20:04 » Yes, he felt very comfortable with everything that we had
20:07 mentioned, and
20:08 here we go, I wish to say, thank you Paul.
20:10 » And then we’ll just kind of talk about AI, and us working on
20:15 AI
20:15 policy, see Mr. T and his crew’s unique in that.
20:19 We’ll look at it from two different lenses, future use of AI,
20:23 and
20:23 staff use of AI, so you can see something on that.
20:26 » Any ideas to what the product will be that comes back to us?
20:29 I mean, you talked about things, but not necessarily policy, but
20:32 framework, right?
20:34 » Yeah, so what we really probably have is a policy for
20:37 staff and training information for students and families.
20:42 So it’s more like an awareness about AI for families and
20:45 students like this to play.
20:47 Good use of AI, not so good use of AI, there’s some things to
20:50 look out for
20:50 when you’re using AI.
20:52 These things you can’t do, you have to turn it down.
20:54 You have to write a paper, and then, but for staff, appropriate
20:59 use of AI.
21:02 » Yeah, I know you’re working on it, so much appreciate that.
21:05 I just want to say it came on so fast, anything we do, we’re
21:08 already behind.
21:10 And we had people who were using it, end up talking to the staff,
21:14 and
21:14 people who are afraid to use it because they don’t want to get
21:18 in trouble.
21:19 I mean, really, some really helpful tools out there, and
21:22 some who are using it in not all the best ways.
21:25 » Yeah.
21:27 » So I appreciate that work, and probably it’s good times they’re
21:31 working on it
21:32 in this time frame, because I think there’s gonna be something
21:36 coming out of
21:36 the legislature as a governor signed it that will also probably
21:40 help shape.
21:41 What I saw in the last couple of days was a report that one of
21:46 those,
21:46 I think it’s already passed, both houses, is to mandate some AI
21:51 training.
21:52 » Correct.
21:52 » At the high school level?
21:54 » Secondary, I believe.
21:55 » Yeah, secondary level, so that our students know how to use
21:59 it, and
22:01 it’s worked into literacy, AI literacy type requirements, and
22:06 that’s fantastic.
22:07 » Yeah, so Mr. Chien was working with the State Association of
22:12 Education,
22:12 IT people, I can’t hear the name of the place.
22:15 » Is that the Georgia AI Task Force or something?
22:17 » Well, that’s whatever it is, State Association, they’re
22:22 working on that.
22:23 And part of it is they wanna see what happens with that
22:26 legislation before they
22:27 create something that then they have to change, so.
22:30 But the whole, I won’t say the whole state, but the association
22:35 that he belongs to,
22:36 it’s on their front thing that they’re looking at, or so they
22:41 think it is.
22:42 [BLANK_AUDIO]
23:03 So with that, we wanted to move on to the website and email
23:07 portion.
23:08 [BLANK_AUDIO]
23:38 » In the section that says, I think in the news or something
23:43 like that,
23:43 actually has your areas news inside of it, so that you could
23:47 utilize that for
23:48 your Facebook and stuff like that.
23:51 But were there any questions on the website?
23:53 » I just think it was great as far as being placed on the
23:57 homepage of this
23:58 district, it was much easier to find for people trying to find.
24:02 » You guys have your own tab now, right?
24:04 » Yeah, we do.
24:05 » And we’ve caught up in the world, so.
24:07 » It’s much easier to find, I think, that’s great.
24:09 And mapping and knowing what schools are in what district, it’s
24:12 just so much easier.
24:13 » Yeah.
24:14 » So we all feel pretty comfortable about it.
24:16 » And all your people aren’t calling anymore.
24:18 » Yeah.
24:19 » Well, there’s a little bit of a restructure in that, I think.
24:23 But the other thing is, is that the email, just so you guys know.
24:26 Some of the city expressed that we didn’t want to send out
24:29 emails to our schools and
24:30 teachers, whatever it is, and they developed headers.
24:33 So kind of like make it, it has to make a limit, and all these
24:37 other people.
24:37 You can go in there and they will just develop your background
24:39 with the picture
24:40 on it, real simple stuff.
24:41 And then that way, if you ever wanted to send out something to
24:44 your people like,
24:44 welcome to school or whatever, you can do that, and that’s
24:47 inside there.
24:48 So if you have not had the chance to look at that, please do.
24:51 Whereas if you go in, Ms. Williams is actually working on that
24:55 with GCR.
24:56 So if you go in and you just say, hey, you can show the examples
25:00 of what that had.
25:01 And here’s what I’m looking for.
25:03 They’ll develop that, and then you just ask GCR.
25:06 These are the digital people that I would like to send it out to.
25:11 So once we develop that header and you guys are interested, they’ll
25:14 build it out.
25:15 Like, okay, if you want to send an email to all your parents,
25:18 to all your teachers, whoever’s inside of your district,
25:21 you can start disseminating that.
25:23 » I will appreciate that, cuz there’s times where we get
25:26 scholarship
25:26 opportunities or different events that are happening that are
25:29 targeted towards
25:29 elementary or towards middle or towards high school.
25:31 And I’m like, I’ll go onto my list, and I have the ball in my
25:33 first pool.
25:34 So it’ll make life a little easier if it were something that
25:37 created that group
25:38 like that.
25:40 » Yeah, I think that the idea is that we have great things that
25:44 we want to let
25:44 parents know, and we know that a lot of the issues are that they
25:47 will want to be
25:48 in Johnny’s backpack, and it goes home, and sometimes Johnny
25:51 doesn’t really get it
25:52 to the parents, or it doesn’t get there.
25:54 But it’s just a way of covering more information to them.
25:57 [BLANK_AUDIO]
26:27 » Did we skip over history projects?
26:28 What was that?
26:29 » Let me bring that up here, the bottom line.
26:31 So it’s kind of outside of, you know, I’m bringing up that on
26:35 top.
26:36 All right, so we go to budget reviews.
26:38 Many of you guys know that we had spoken last month about structuring
26:42 our budgets.
26:43 Many of you may not have seen a school budget before.
26:46 I looked at it every once in a while.
26:48 Basically, each one of your schools has their own budget.
26:52 They have their own expenditure list, and they have all of those
26:54 components.
26:55 So what I’m doing is, is working with finance to develop use
26:59 that you will
26:59 receive twice a year your school budgets, so that you can review
27:04 all of them.
27:04 And that’s gonna be where you can see, this is what they did
27:07 over the summer.
27:08 This is the expenditures, this is where they spent money with
27:11 capital.
27:12 Here’s where they have reserves, everything.
27:14 So for instance, I have one of our schools, Ms. Campbell will
27:17 tell you the story.
27:18 We were given 180,000, I think, of capital each.
27:21 And there was a specific anomaly that we were given, running.
27:24 And they said, okay,
27:25 each one of the board members has this much money to go spend.
27:28 So this one year, we went out, there was a big thing that we
27:31 were fighting for, and
27:32 we really did.
27:33 It’s this allocation of capital dollars to help support our
27:36 schools however we want.
27:38 So we went to all the schools.
27:40 One of the schools, and I won’t particularly name the name,
27:42 the VP teacher came out and said, we needed a basketball court.
27:46 Our basketball court needed the resurface for years to fall
27:50 apart.
27:50 Is this something that you might be able to allocate?
27:52 So I went to the principal and I said, hey, I’m thinking about
27:55 doing this.
27:56 Would you look, appreciate it?
27:57 She goes, yeah, yeah.
27:58 She goes, we just don’t have any money.
27:59 We don’t have any money involved in the problem.
28:01 And then, so I allocated a specific portion of that to take care
28:04 of it.
28:04 It’s like $89,000, right, resurface it and do all of everything
28:08 else.
28:09 And then all of a sudden, Dr.
28:11 Mullins at the time, besides the end of the year, is going to
28:13 shrug all of their
28:15 reserves and come to find out the school that I had done that
28:19 with had in reserves
28:20 $20,000, and they were forced to put a spend it to be built an
28:24 entire playground.
28:26 So what it means is, is that sometimes you’re hearing one thing
28:29 and
28:30 maybe you’ve seen, does that make sense?
28:32 Plus, it just creates the transparency that’s needed out there.
28:35 Any questions on the school budget?
28:37 It’ll be twice a year, and that’s what we’ll talk about
28:39 processing and
28:40 then we’ll talk about the dates and stuff like that.
28:42 I mean, the other thing is, is that the district department
28:45 budgets,
28:45 which one of us receives kind of a overview at the end of the
28:48 year,
28:48 saying here’s what it is, this is how it’s compared to last year
28:51 and everything.
28:52 But we don’t receive, inside of that document,
28:55 we do receive a portion of their budget.
28:57 But we don’t receive what the expenditures were and some of the
29:01 deep dive on them.
29:03 So what we’re doing is just like we talked about the school
29:05 budgets,
29:05 twice a year you’ll receive district departmental budgets that
29:08 are gonna be so
29:08 that you can review any of the expenditures and
29:11 review how much they have in reserve and review things.
29:14 And then have those conversations that say, hey, you’ve got $100,000
29:18 in this budget.
29:18 What’s going on?
29:19 And a lot of times they’re saving it for something if they’re
29:22 not finished here.
29:23 So a lot of times the budgets roll over, stuff like that, but it
29:26 gets us to a place
29:27 where we understand deep dive as far as we need one of the
29:30 budgets,
29:30 rather than whatever they bring to the board, if that makes
29:33 sense to you.
29:34 » Yeah, I’m gonna have you hand a response on Monday, but I’ll
29:36 let you finish.
29:37 » Yeah, and then let me say something about Sue Ann in a quick
29:40 response.
29:40 As there’s something that she came to me three days ago, and
29:44 kind of changed a lot of what we’re talking about here.
29:48 And then the district budget, what I’m going to do is once Sue
29:53 Ann,
29:53 the component that she talks about, we’ll play it in a second,
29:56 it’s finished.
29:57 We receive a district budget at the end of every year, right?
29:59 They roll back, and sometimes it does not line up, the numbers
30:04 might line up.
30:05 But how it lines up, if you don’t know how to read it, to the
30:08 athlete,
30:08 which is what they report to state, which is very easy.
30:11 It’s only, it’s like 22 pages or something like that.
30:15 Sometimes they’ll line up, and it’s not even tall.
30:17 It’s just because this is the document that we’ve had and we’ve
30:19 been doing forever.
30:20 If you guys know what I’m talking about, it’s the one that has
30:22 all of our pictures
30:23 in it, all of our files in it, and it talks about what the bar
30:26 is.
30:26 It gives a large overview, so it’s like, it’s the cap, or again,
30:29 a popular annual financial report.
30:30 » Well, I think he’s talking about the cap room, which is the-
30:32 » Right, he said the cap room, the cap room, okay.
30:35 Anyway, so what’s happening is the one that we see at our board
30:37 meeting,
30:38 the copies that I have inside the office, that 100 and something
30:41 page document.
30:42 And then the actual, and if you go to the state website and look
30:45 at,
30:45 you know what I mean, sometimes they don’t.
30:46 So what I’d like to do is bring this back to one of our
30:52 workshops where we say,
30:53 okay, is this what you guys see as far as what you want that
30:56 document to look like?
30:57 Cuz it might be that we wanna line it up a little bit different
31:00 so
31:00 it’s more transparent, that’s all.
31:01 And if we don’t, that was the district budget, that’s where it
31:04 was.
31:05 And then so I guess we’ve been working on this stuff,
31:08 asking them to put together these examples and all that stuff.
31:12 And then Sue called me two days ago and said, we’re talking, and
31:15 she said,
31:16 you know, I’m restructuring everything.
31:17 So Sue is actually gonna be doing all of what I just said,
31:21 school budgets,
31:22 district budgets, and the departmental budgets.
31:26 She’s gonna be presenting to us every other school to me what
31:30 she would like to do.
31:31 And I’ve asked her to, if that’s the case since today,
31:34 I was gonna put this in place as far as talk to you guys and
31:36 make sure that we’re moving in the right direction.
31:39 She could bring that possibly to the next couple of workshops
31:42 when she’s got to.
31:44 What she would like to do is present not only kind of what we
31:47 see as far as those
31:48 amendments, but a little bit more direction and things like that.
31:54 She’s restructuring the finance department.
31:56 And I’ve been working on this for two months, and then all of a
31:59 sudden,
32:00 she takes over finance.
32:01 So she’s, and I felt completely comfortable with her take this
32:04 portion.
32:05 But the idea is that we would like to be able to grab a school
32:10 budget and
32:11 say, I wanna take a look at this school budget and have that
32:13 ability.
32:14 Grab a department budget, have that ability, and then two times
32:18 a year, review.
32:19 » I think one of the answers that I find, and I’m speaking for
32:21 myself only,
32:22 and I don’t know what kind of realsies, but a lot of times we’re
32:25 looking for
32:25 something in our budget that might be like an exorbitant
32:28 training that took place in
32:30 California and it cost the district $50,000.
32:34 I’m just throwing out an example here.
32:37 It doesn’t, the budget isn’t necessarily gonna tell you that.
32:39 All it’s gonna say is travel, continuing education, it’ll lump
32:43 it into a strand.
32:44 But it doesn’t give you what the actual money is spent on.
32:47 And so I think that’s a great starting place.
32:50 Yeah, so I don’t think it’s gonna answer a lot of the questions.
32:52 I think it’s still gonna end up that you’re gonna have to dig
32:54 deeper to find out
32:55 what it is that you’re concerned about or that somebody has
32:57 brought to your
32:58 appointments that you had an issue with.
33:00 » So what you’re saying, I agree with, so what you’re saying is
33:04 that there’s
33:05 a conference that everybody goes to from a specific school.
33:08 » I think we all understood what you’re saying.
33:10 » And that would be reflected into the budget that they have.
33:13 » It’ll just go to the strand.
33:14 It’s just gonna go for continuing education or
33:16 it’s gonna go for whatever the case, it’s not gonna show.
33:18 » We do have that.
33:19 » Hang on, it’ll say exactly the actual service approval amount.
33:25 It won’t, you’re not gonna just see just the actual budgetary
33:30 like bucket.
33:31 » Okay. » You’ll see it break down all of those.
33:34 So it won’t be that you just see one thing, it’s fishing house
33:37 and office will be.
33:40 » We actually already have access to something more specific.
33:42 If you’re checking on those, we get month-to-month-ish from
33:46 procurement.
33:47 We get the report that we asked for that was the anything under-
33:52 » The director of the superintendent.
33:53 » The superintendent, and that is schools or departments.
33:58 So if a school runs a venue for Tom and they spend over $5,000.
34:04 I mean, I’m kicking something.
34:06 It actually says this school, this vendor, or if you hire a
34:11 musician,
34:12 somebody to come in, a clinician or whatever, anything like that.
34:16 That’s on there specific, which I think would get to, like if it
34:19 was a training,
34:20 it gets more specific when you look at that.
34:23 » So it does, but there’s- » Any hotel or school.
34:26 » Yeah, it does, and I appreciate that from there, I read every
34:29 month all the books.
34:30 But one of the things I think in here right now when we’re
34:33 talking about budget
34:34 constraints and that’s obviously a big area of conversation for
34:37 pretty much everybody in the state of Florida, I think it’d be
34:39 wise for
34:40 our district to take a strong stance on saying, hey,
34:41 no more travel outside the state of Florida.
34:43 If you’re gonna do any kind of continuing education,
34:45 you’re gonna stay here in Florida and you’re not gonna go
34:47 elsewhere.
34:47 Cuz those trips get very, very expensive when we’re talking
34:50 about airfare and
34:51 hotel and conference expenses.
34:53 And I know that may sound very popular and people might be upset
34:56 about that.
34:56 But if you don’t have money, you don’t go with travel, you stay
35:00 where you’re at.
35:00 And so we need to find a way to bring that resource here and
35:03 figure out how much.
35:04 And that’s my personal opinion on that.
35:06 I don’t know where the board will land on that, but that’s more
35:08 around the park.
35:10 I understand that, believe me, I understand that.
35:13 » Across the state, there are many districts that lock down
35:16 travelers and
35:17 Dr. Endell did a great job of pulling our summit at the end of
35:21 the year to make sure
35:22 that we have the time to do something like that, a lot of that.
35:25 » I understand instead of making a blanket policy, obviously,
35:29 the superintendent controls the day-to-day expenditures of the
35:32 budget.
35:33 And so him knowing that we’re trying to cut back, he obviously
35:36 is leading
35:37 the charge on that, I would just hate to tie the district’s
35:40 hands and
35:41 say that we’re not making a blanket policy.
35:43 We’re not doing something to come up that is beneficial.
35:47 » But right now, we’d be able to- » Or maybe that the board is
35:50 approved to adopt, I don’t know, I’m just- » We already do,
35:53 don’t we, don’t we already approve out-of-state travel, as far
35:56 as-
35:56 » [INAUDIBLE]
36:00 And so, again, I’m not taking a big response to this one, but I’m
36:03 just saying.
36:03 And right now, I’m sure there’s things that are lined up for
36:05 this summer.
36:06 So maybe this has been moving forward that we say, hey, starting
36:08 next school year.
36:09 We say, in the state, we’re working on tightening down
36:14 every essential we possibly have.
36:16 That’s one that we have identified that is expensive.
36:18 It costs the district some substantial money, and so
36:21 we wanna see that we’re being experienced there.
36:23 I don’t know what to work for on that.
36:25 » So we had that conversation last summer, heading into this,
36:28 actually, last spring, heading into this 2020 year.
36:31 And so we reduced travel costs by, I believe, 20% last summer.
36:37 » What was the total overall travel cost?
36:39 » I don’t know.
36:40 » Okay, I think that’s why it worked.
36:42 The board knowing what is the total expenses for travel.
36:44 District-wide, cuz that’s gonna be a number that would probably,
36:49 it’s gonna be-
36:49 » It’s a lot smaller than you think.
36:51 » Okay, all right, well, I’m curious about the numbers.
36:54 And maybe if it isn’t, okay, could we continue on?
36:59 My thought process is that we are saying that we don’t have
37:02 money for
37:03 all these things, and the other one, that would hinder our
37:06 thoughts.
37:06 They kind of started with at the last board meeting.
37:09 Underneath me was our school board member budget that we
37:13 received,
37:13 which I believe, Lena, $7,500, is that correct, for each member?
37:17 » This year.
37:17 » This year, $7,500, right, and so- » His membership’s right.
37:21 » Right, his membership’s at SBA for each one sitting here is
37:25 over $5,000 per
37:26 person to be a part of SBA, which I’ve opted out of.
37:29 And again, I understand why people do that, and their advocacy
37:33 there.
37:33 But my frustration is, when I look at the board and I say, hey,
37:37 I wanna spend $200 to send 40 kids that are in ROTC to Patrick’s
37:42 Facehorse Basin.
37:43 I’m getting pushback for taking it out of that money, and going,
37:46 wait a minute.
37:47 That seems absolutely affluent to me.
37:49 And the union’s over there going, we’ll pay for it, we’ll pay
37:51 for it.
37:52 And I’m like, okay, of course.
37:54 And so that’s where you’re just like, this is the common sense
37:56 thing.
37:56 So I think that there needs to be some leniency there.
37:59 Now, I’m not even saying the board, they didn’t come before the
38:02 board to approve
38:03 it, but the board as a whole should look at that and go,
38:05 that makes perfectly good sense.
38:07 You’re at student base and sending kids to them right here in
38:09 Brevard County,
38:10 using our resources, and you’re not sending that money by being
38:14 a part of the VA.
38:15 Why not send $200 on that?
38:16 » [INAUDIBLE] » Okay, all right, well I’m just, again,
38:21 enforcing my frustration with that one, cuz that one shocks me
38:24 beyond a belief.
38:25 I’m like, this is crazy.
38:26 This is 100% focused towards students and their education.
38:30 And that should be a number one priority, I guess, to be a
38:33 number one priority.
38:34 So, board, I’m just not seeing anyone can look at that and
38:36 talk about that, think about that long part.
38:38 If you’re not sending the money elsewhere on a membership or
38:40 something, or
38:43 maybe evaluating what is the membership costing to the districts.
38:45 I mean, how much are you receiving from that membership?
38:48 Are those the things that you have to weigh into when we are
38:50 part of something, so.
38:52 » Well, on that topic, I mean, we’re gonna have to accomplish a
38:54 group of labor,
38:55 but I hope you report me.
38:56 But on the topic of FSVA, there’s more than just the weekly
39:01 emails that we’re getting.
39:02 FSVA, and I think one of the examples is, through our membership
39:06 in FSVA,
39:06 we have applicants, we have lobbyists that are, and
39:08 this board did not put together a platform this year.
39:11 We had a couple requests, we made platform suggestions to FSVA’s
39:14 platform.
39:15 We made a couple of suggestions to the consortium’s platform.
39:18 We did not put that together a platform.
39:20 But on our behalf, there were multiple people who worked for FSVA
39:24 that were
39:25 working on our behalf on all these bills that are coming down
39:27 and
39:28 on the state budget and things like that.
39:30 So there’s, and we have used in the past, we’ve used them for
39:34 a superintendent search, but we paid them for that, I wasn’t
39:37 afraid of this.
39:38 » Right, I just didn’t rate because, this is gonna be short, I’m
39:41 gonna be done.
39:42 But there’s a whole lot more of that, so, and the choice to be a
39:46 member,
39:47 not be a member, we’ve opened it up so
39:49 that if you wanted to join another association, that’s fine.
39:52 We can have the conversation later about what kind of briefing
39:55 can be happening.
39:55 But I have to say, whatever we don’t use in that membership
40:00 budget,
40:02 absolutely can be student focused, because if we don’t use money,
40:05 it’s like any other department that doesn’t use their money.
40:08 At the end of the year, and it gets moved into the next year’s
40:12 budget or
40:12 whatever, that is money that we can use for one-time student
40:15 expenditures,
40:16 we can use for bonuses, we can use for whatever we need.
40:19 It is not a matter of we can have the freedom to do these little
40:24 one-on projects,
40:25 or we can focus, and that’s student focused.
40:28 But if we don’t do that, then we’re not student focused.
40:30 I don’t accept that as an argument.
40:31 So again, not wanting to go into it that much, but the idea of
40:36 being a part of
40:36 MSVA, part of being a good board member is making you better
40:41 able to serve students.
40:44 And there’s a lot of wisdom that I know personally I’ve gained
40:48 over the last eight
40:48 years, seven and a half, from being part of that association,
40:52 being able to reach
40:53 out to people at any point in time and say, hey, we got this
40:56 going on in the bar, help.
40:58 How do I handle this situation?
41:00 And I always get a phone call back from people who are on staff
41:04 who are paying,
41:05 they’re paying for our dues, or fellow board members.
41:07 There’s just a lot outside of conferences and things like that.
41:11 There’s year-round things that help people be a better board
41:13 member.
41:14 But honestly, I think people who have people to more advantage
41:17 of that can be
41:18 even better board members.
41:19 So I’m just gonna pass it on back to you.
41:22 » Thank you for the opportunity to do that.
41:24 Ms. Wright was saying that we shouldn’t be members of MSVA.
41:28 I think her point was that she has allocations of funds that she
41:31 would like
41:31 to put towards some of her other items.
41:33 And I think they would have that conversation with the person.
41:36 » And that’s my favorite part.
41:38 » I just- » The leniency they’re on.
41:39 And the question, but I’m not, this isn’t a knocked-off SVA.
41:42 My biggest knock-off SVA is the expense that it costs the school
41:45 district.
41:45 That’s my biggest issue with them.
41:47 But it costs a lot of money for each one of us to sit there.
41:49 And while you utilize it and you take advantage of it, and
41:51 I’m glad that you do, I think that that can be said true for
41:54 everybody that sits on the boards, whether it’s here or around
41:57 the state of Florida.
41:57 So you go, okay, is that the best and highest, the highest and
42:00 best use of expense?
42:01 I don’t know, is it, I don’t know.
42:03 And not to mention, like you said, I mean, we did, yes, we have
42:07 them for
42:07 our hiring of our superintendent.
42:09 We paid them an expense for that.
42:11 That wasn’t a free service that they provided.
42:13 And it started with lobbyists, we were paying lobbyists also.
42:16 So you’re like, okay, so I’m just saying, if we’re looking at
42:20 this in a true nature
42:21 of where can we save money, that’s one area where I feel
42:25 confident saying,
42:26 I’m okay with saying I will not send the money there.
42:28 But at the same time, if you want to take the $200 and
42:31 send it towards, and trust me, next time, I’m like,
42:33 I will just find someone that will probably write that check.
42:35 And I will not bring it up if that’s the direction of the board.
42:37 But I think that’s the conversation that needs to be handled out.
42:40 » Just so the board knows, on top of the way they used to work
42:45 with,
42:45 on top of being able to utilize your funds for things like that.
42:49 Or also just as a wish, could not use the healthcare system that
42:54 we have.
42:54 » I don’t use the healthcare system, either.
42:56 » So what they did was they allocated the amount of money.
42:58 Because when you go to the true board budget, it breaks it down
43:02 by how much
43:02 your salary is, how much your healthcare is, how much of this
43:06 funding that we’re
43:07 speaking under this, and even that worked under them, which I
43:10 had to do.
43:11 Because we’re not, we can’t, all my folks in the family can’t
43:14 perform your duties.
43:16 But I mean, so those were the buckets before.
43:18 » Yeah. » And what she had successfully done,
43:20 as best as I was, said, hey, look, I don’t spend healthcare.
43:24 So because I don’t do that, can you add that to my file?
43:26 And she did, and she did what you’re talking about, which was go
43:30 outside.
43:31 » I actually talked to her a couple days ago because I wanted
43:34 to ask about
43:35 the conversation regarding the money, which was one-time funds
43:38 that came from,
43:39 I just put this out there cuz we need some historical
43:43 perspective.
43:44 It was one-time funds, I believe it was around the time we were
43:47 losing those
43:48 federal funds, the kids had to fill out the forms that say we
43:51 have federal property.
43:52 And if that all went off, I thought, I know agency were a big
43:55 part of that,
43:56 trying to fight for getting that back.
43:57 And so we got that back for getting that money, but the budget
44:00 is my understanding.
44:01 And I was also gonna talk to Ms. Bell for the seat cuz I haven’t
44:05 been able to talk
44:05 to her yet, that it was one-time funds.
44:09 Because we got those federal funds, but the budget had already
44:13 been set.
44:14 And so they divvied it up among the board members to do mostly
44:18 capital projects.
44:20 And so that, again, that was a one-time thing.
44:23 It wasn’t a recurring, every year the board members get to use
44:27 this money for
44:28 their pet project funds.
44:31 » We were able to use the pet project funds, it was one year.
44:34 That’s why I stated it as one year in the past, because it was
44:37 time for that.
44:39 But anyways, we’ll have that discussion on Thursday.
44:41 Everybody, moving on, one of the things we would do in the
44:45 process discussion,
44:46 one of the things we have is committee reports.
44:49 So right now we all have committees, right?
44:51 And thank you, Ms. Campbell, for doing the Central Florida
44:55 School Board Coalition.
44:57 And what I would like to do is set up a system where if we do
45:01 attend something,
45:03 that we bring whatever those materials are and
45:05 send them out to the rest of the board on a regular basis.
45:08 Now, I’m guilty of this.
45:10 And as most people may be, if we attend legacies, we just know
45:14 to request
45:15 the documentation to send those boards, and hey, here’s what was
45:18 that release, and
45:19 stuff like that.
45:19 I think that we all go there, and we all kind of know some of
45:23 the things.
45:24 But I would like to start a formal process of,
45:26 if we attended a meeting that we regularly are appointed for.
45:31 And then we go ahead and end with that meeting where we see a
45:34 presentation or
45:34 something like that, that we can share that with the board.
45:37 It’s really easy, I think, we can get to that.
45:38 » It’s actually labeled for the board, so you’re asking us, so
45:41 do you want us to do in the board meetings, we have our recognitions
45:45 and
45:46 board reports, or would you rather just send that in your own?
45:49 » I think you send that in your own, and then on the board
45:52 reports,
45:53 the next part that we’re gonna talk about is the power reports.
45:57 We actually say those to it.
45:59 Ms. Lena knows that you were attending because she has all of
46:02 our calendars,
46:03 that she might add that to the board reports that you know to.
46:06 Give that update, that’s all.
46:08 Just more of a formal process, just in that we’re tightening up
46:12 over here.
46:13 The next thing is that inside of your agenda you have other
46:17 materials,
46:18 kind of an overview, if you have inside of there.
46:21 This is something that Dr.
46:22 [INAUDIBLE] But again, I’m just trying to formalize it.
46:27 Everything that we’ve talked about right now [INAUDIBLE]
46:30 what we’re speaking about.
46:31 I’m gonna formalize it into the document that says these are the
46:34 process and
46:34 what we’re speaking about [INAUDIBLE] exactly how we do it
46:41 already.
46:41 But when Tuesday is out, it’s due to the board.
46:46 And then that’s Friday, 11 days out.
46:51 You guys can use that email to monitor the Friday report that
46:54 says, hey,
46:55 if anything, if you guys wish to pull, if there’s anything you
46:58 guys wish to discuss
46:59 or anything like that, please take a look.
47:01 And everybody can come out on Friday or 11 days out.
47:05 And then Monday, which is the day before when we have our one-on-one
47:09 sessions.
47:09 After you talk to Dr.
47:11 Endell, if there’s something that you would want to pull off the
47:14 board,
47:14 you could signify that by saying, if you have any opportunity,
47:18 there’s a high review, I’ve spoken to Dr.
47:21 Endell, and now I’m gonna pull it off the agenda.
47:23 That’s everything we already do.
47:25 There’s not a single thing that we’re talking about.
47:27 It’s just, I wanna formalize it, put it down so it happens, some
47:31 sort of option.
47:32 And then the next day, it gets published through the agenda to
47:35 the public.
47:36 And then that Friday, what I’ve asked is, when I’ve received the
47:40 agenda seven days
47:41 out, I’ve asked you to not add anything to the agenda to throw
47:45 your guests off.
47:46 But instead, on that Friday, an email will go from me and
47:49 out to the board of any of the additions that they have.
47:53 You’ll look at those and tell us if there’s any of them that you
47:56 object to.
47:57 And if I could get those objections on Monday [INAUDIBLE]
48:04 » Sorry, just real fast.
48:05 What’s it saying on Friday, just the administrative
48:07 recommendations?
48:08 » No, that’s being sent to the board, but any other changes to
48:12 the agenda,
48:13 additions, or subtractions will go to you guys on Friday.
48:17 » You’re saying this is gonna be, you’re proposing this is
48:20 gonna be policy?
48:21 So like the other day, I pulled something that it wasn’t
48:23 planning on me pulling in,
48:25 and something came up within this eight-day window that I wanted
48:28 to pull something.
48:28 And we don’t have that flexibility.
48:29 » Yeah, all that flexibility in the world.
48:31 All I’m trying to do is just kind of organize it.
48:34 So what happens is, is when it becomes my agenda on that Tuesday,
48:39 you have every right to pull.
48:40 You can immediately go ahead and say, hey, I wanna pull this, I
48:43 wanna do it.
48:43 What we’re doing is, is creating a time period, because during
48:46 that time,
48:47 sometimes, not all the time, but very rarely,
48:50 staff is adding things to the calendar, right?
48:53 So what I was saying is, for me, what ends up happening is, I
48:56 check it one day.
48:57 I check it for three or four days, and then all of a sudden,
49:00 there’s something else on there.
49:01 So just saying, hey, whatever recommendations they are,
49:06 let’s freeze the calendar until that Friday, we will put it out.
49:10 So that comes out on Friday, then we all look at it.
49:13 We meet with Dr. Mill one more time.
49:15 And we say, hey, Doc, listen, I’ve got an issue here.
49:19 When I like this, I’m gonna try to add it, whatever that is.
49:22 And then right after that, we successfully knock out whatever it
49:24 is.
49:25 So that there’s something that three board members or Dr. Endell
49:28 says, hey,
49:28 I don’t want this on the board agenda.
49:31 Then we’ll pull it before it comes, and we’ll have that for
49:33 discussion.
49:35 And later, they give them, and does that make sense?
49:37 » When you say pull, I think you’re talking about pulling it
49:39 off the agenda as
49:40 a whole, not the same as what you’re talking about,
49:42 which is pulling it from the consent end to a separate vote.
49:45 » Right, absolutely.
49:46 » Right? » Hey, that comes-
49:47 » Okay. » No, absolutely.
49:48 » I’ve got- » Good point.
49:49 » Good question, are you publishing on Tuesdays or Wednesdays?
49:53 » She does the Tuesday night.
49:54 » Most of the times I try to get it in on a Tuesday night, but-
49:57 » Okay, cuz Wednesday- » Sometimes you’re waiting for
49:59 a document.
50:00 » Right.
50:01 » And so when I get to work on a Wednesday morning, which is
50:05 usually 6.30,
50:05 6.45, I’ll post right then, cuz I’ll have that document.
50:09 » Cuz that’s technically seven days out.
50:10 I just, the flexibility of- » Because we have till midnight,
50:14 the seven days ahead of time, I’m not up till midnight.
50:19 I’m not waiting for that document till midnight.
50:21 » But with all that said, she should no longer have to wait
50:24 until midnight on
50:25 Tuesday for anybody making a decision.
50:27 We should be able to meet with Dr.
50:28 Mandela, make those decisions.
50:30 She should have all day Tuesday to publish it, and we have a
50:32 formal process.
50:33 That’s it, I think that’s all.
50:35 » I’d love to hear if Dr. Mandela has any thoughts about it.
50:42 I’m fine with this, and I very much would appreciate the email,
50:44 because when we had, what did we have before, agenda plus,
50:49 we would at least get which item was updated.
50:54 But we also would get a, this is what was added, deleted, and
50:58 the new software,
50:58 there’s a lot of benefits to it, but it doesn’t tell me what’s
51:01 changed,
51:02 when it changed.
51:03 So I only wanted to go back and see the things that was
51:05 different.
51:05 » That’s right. » I wanted to see the whole thing again.
51:07 So anything that was updated since the last, without Visa.
51:12 » Yes, absolutely, that would be very- » And just so you guys
51:15 know,
51:15 this is what we technically do already, but with a little bit
51:19 more organization.
51:20 If all of a sudden we find that there’s something that’s amiss
51:23 about it,
51:23 kind of like giving the change, it’s not that this is all of a
51:27 sudden going to be
51:28 the wrong, but it’s just good to start right, you know what I
51:30 mean?
51:31 Are you okay with this?
51:32 » Yeah, no, I love this item.
51:34 » You’re in for it.
51:35 » Any problems, something?
51:37 » No, I think I just want to clarify what you mentioned that
51:42 sometimes
51:42 she’s waiting on a document.
51:45 So not necessarily waiting on a board to be back, but waiting on
51:47 a document or
51:48 something to be added late Tuesday, and so she gets it on
51:53 Tuesday.
51:54 And then it’s after she left for work, and then she ends up-
51:58 » Right.
51:59 » [INAUDIBLE] » Tuesday morning.
52:02 » Yep, yep, okay, so one of the things that we talked about is
52:08 right now,
52:08 there’s work that are not updated in the procurement process.
52:13 I think, Mr. Thomas, you had some input into that.
52:17 I made some input into it, not that this is for a formal
52:21 discussion or
52:21 anything like that, we’ll bring it back and we can talk through
52:24 it.
52:25 But I would like to do anything over a million dollars,
52:29 I think that has to be looked at.
52:33 So one of the problems we have, and this is, again,
52:36 you just suggested this we’ll bring it back earlier today.
52:39 Is that before our health care ended on our property,
52:43 the consultant that oversaw the actual stuff was the one that
52:47 did the other piece.
52:48 The problem with that is that the consultant wouldn’t be in
52:51 condition,
52:52 on the back end, the bonus thing for anything that they wrote,
52:56 okay?
52:57 So that’s the health care piece.
52:58 That is no longer, we can stand that out, that’s great.
53:02 The other problem we had was that we were constantly getting
53:06 renewals at
53:07 the board meeting that was right before the reasonable payment.
53:10 So it means that we had no chance of changing, and
53:13 we wouldn’t even see it until like ten days before the actual
53:16 renewal date,
53:17 which means they would do that on purpose.
53:19 So the health care, that’s going, we’re good there.
53:23 Moving forward to the property side three years ago, if you
53:26 remember that really,
53:27 the rude lady that came in from Gallagher and was speaking
53:30 during the renewal.
53:31 She was kind of disrespectful and asking a lot of random
53:34 questions.
53:35 I said, I did not want to have the property renewal or
53:39 any of these large renewals come right before the date.
53:42 Where we have property renewal, it’s on April 4th, 31st.
53:46 And right now, we’re gonna have that on our agenda December or
53:49 March 31st.
53:50 So the idea is that I would like to, in the future, talk about
53:54 getting those ahead
53:55 of the time that it would take, if we did not like that, to go
53:58 out with it.
53:59 And there’s a reason why this property one is very important for
54:03 that kind of conversation that I’ll bring up before we get into
54:06 it.
54:07 Just as a, this is where my thought was on this piece, just to
54:10 let you know.
54:11 But the procurement process, I did want to let you guys know,
54:14 is being worked on right now.
54:16 So if you have any input, I think the conversation goes through,
54:20 of course,
54:20 after the mail, but then the suit can, and then they will get
54:24 through.
54:25 Okay, so procurement is actually under operations, I’m not too.
54:30 We actually asked RSM to add this to their current internal
54:34 audit, so
54:34 they’re gonna be auditing our procurement process.
54:37 So that should yield us a recommendation, if any, to change our
54:43 processes.
54:44 But if you guys have something outside of what RSM wants,
54:48 give them their rewrite.
54:49 » No, I agree, because we’ve seen times where we’re approving
54:52 contracts and
54:53 times that are, they’re dated for, it’s after the date, the
54:56 contract has lapsed.
54:57 And so that is not good practice at all, but we don’t need to be
55:01 continuing to do
55:02 that.
55:02 And I think honestly, anything that comes up,
55:04 there should be something within procurement that triggers a
55:07 notification.
55:07 Let’s say 90 days this contract comes up.
55:10 It needs to be more than really 30 days, because if they’re
55:12 passing off for
55:13 competitive bidding, that’s a process and that takes time.
55:15 So 90 days should probably be the window of when a contract’s
55:18 coming up.
55:19 What are we doing with it, is it getting extended or renewed, or
55:22 is it going back out with it on all fronts, I think, honestly.
55:26 That’s my personal opinion.
55:27 » I think it would be helpful for me in this conversation, and
55:30 maybe Mr. Lyons could give us a refresher.
55:33 We did that workshop a couple years ago about the whole
55:35 procurement process.
55:36 » We actually did it less than a year ago.
55:38 » Let’s see, I don’t need another workshop.
55:40 I think my question’s specifically on the renewal part.
55:44 So, cuz my thought is, okay, if we, so the insurance question
55:50 aside.
55:50 But for most of our contracts, if we know, we set a three-year
55:55 contract and
55:55 it’ll have two one-year renewals or something like that.
55:59 If whoever the vendor is, the contract with, is doing a really
56:03 good job,
56:03 we’re getting really good service, and they want to do those two
56:07 renewals,
56:07 which they have every right to, because that’s the way we set it
56:10 up, and so
56:11 we’re just improving those renewals.
56:13 We’re in the way of us, if we already know,
56:16 because the known is we’re getting good service.
56:19 We put it back out, can we possibly get a cheaper price?
56:21 Maybe, maybe not, but maybe we’ve locked in a good price, and we
56:25 wanna do that.
56:25 So I don’t wanna put an extra barrier in there.
56:27 But I have one question that I think you can answer for us is,
56:30 is there something,
56:32 do they go out, obviously not to the whole process again, but
56:36 do they just kinda scope out a little bit and go, is there a
56:38 possibility
56:40 on those renewals in the market, is there better, something out
56:45 there, maybe?
56:46 Because I think that would make us feel better about that.
56:49 » Yeah, so one of the reasons we switched to BoardDocs, now it’s
56:53 diligent.
56:54 » Right. » Is because you could then search
56:56 all the other districts, BoardDocs, to see their contracts and
56:59 see if they were getting something to achieve a price or a
57:02 better deal.
57:04 So Sean can do that with diligent, he’s still allowed, it
57:07 enables us to do that.
57:09 We couldn’t in the old system cuz we weren’t in the system.
57:12 So now being part of the same system that almost every district
57:15 has been,
57:16 we look at all their contracts and see if we get that deal,
57:18 including the other
57:19 government agencies.
57:20 So yeah, Sean did a presentation at Valspite at middle school,
57:25 VR middle school, if that was about a year ago, maybe.
57:30 Maybe more than a year ago.
57:31 But we can talk about just the renewal process if you want.
57:36 But again, I’m very comfortable that RCM’s gonna dig in and look
57:40 at our process.
57:42 And they can tell us if there’s some things we’re doing
57:45 inefficiently,
57:46 it would be better.
57:48 » Would you anticipate that they’ll have completed their review?
57:51 » So they’ll have it done by end of fiscal year, so that’s what
57:55 I want.
57:57 » And also [INAUDIBLE]
58:03 the one thing they don’t want is to come forward with a
58:06 recommendation.
58:07 Let’s go a different direction.
58:08 So if they’ve always been contacting [INAUDIBLE]
58:13 [BLANK_AUDIO]
58:18 » Be clear, if I have my request, can be answered with an email.
58:21 » Okay, all right, okay.
58:22 » [LAUGH]
58:24 » And then in that regard, in this case,
58:26 one of the things is that she came out with the one year
58:30 extensions.
58:31 They still shoot a couple of people at a different time.
58:34 Because we’ll give you an example, our former health program was
58:40 at the short-term disability come up at a different time.
58:45 So that when the renewal for the accident, critical illness, and
58:48 other stuff came up, they were able to give those to that
58:51 specific program.
58:53 By then having the short-term disability,
58:56 they were able to anchor the savings if they could offset costs
58:59 for the others.
59:00 It’s a game we can play, right?
59:03 So what I thought forward was, hey, let’s line this up so
59:06 that they all come out at the same time.
59:08 Having that ability and knowledge before the renewal pops on,
59:11 that’s the time right before.
59:13 So I don’t think anybody disagrees with the year renewals at all.
59:20 You’re 100% right.
59:21 They’re just basic formalities, but there are some common things
59:24 that might come up
59:24 that we have to put eyes on it before they go out to play that
59:27 game.
59:28 » All right, moving on to the memorizing request.
59:30 So in the past, and this cable will probably remember this,
59:34 is we used to have a system where our number requests we would
59:38 put into,
59:38 we had a system built, if you would put it in, it would then
59:42 take it, and
59:42 then it would lock it in, and it would say, this member has
59:46 requested, we all see it.
59:48 And it gives timelines and stuff like that to remember that
59:50 document.
59:51 » Yeah, it was a smart shape that they were doing.
59:54 » I mean, you probably used it more than anybody else,
59:58 because you would have a request or whatever, I mean.
1:00:02 » Okay, okay, okay.
1:00:03 » It’s fine, to me, usually if I have a request, it’s an email.
1:00:11 Whoever it is having a member respond to all of this, we’re good.
1:00:15 » I’ve not had a problem.
1:00:16 I just wanted to bring it up to have an opportunity, because
1:00:19 basically,
1:00:20 if you notice this, this is all organizing what we do.
1:00:24 And so I wanted to see if you got one.
1:00:25 What it is, is it was a program that, John, if you went and
1:00:28 typed it in,
1:00:29 it would send an email, and it would go out to the cabin.
1:00:32 It would have it registered as, this is what I’ve said in my
1:00:36 request, basically.
1:00:37 And you would see all the requests, of course.
1:00:39 Yes, Ms. Campbell, I did have more than others.
1:00:41 But the thing is, is that they eventually were checked.
1:00:48 So it didn’t fall through the cracks.
1:00:51 I will tell you about the situation where I just wanted to bring
1:00:57 it up.
1:00:57 Had an opportunity that everybody felt that we needed to bring
1:01:00 it up.
1:01:00 And take a look at what we had before we can, if you guys are
1:01:03 good with what we have.
1:01:04 » [INAUDIBLE] » It was March 8th.
1:01:09 We also, at the time, had Tammy who kept showing.
1:01:12 » And she was cooler than Marky.
1:01:15 » [INAUDIBLE]
1:01:25 » All right, so in the next piece is Suhan’s finance process.
1:01:30 We already talked about that.
1:01:32 Next up is a calendar review.
1:01:35 So what we did was, many of you know that some of the schools
1:01:38 that you go to,
1:01:38 they don’t have their calendars updated.
1:01:40 They don’t have those kind of things.
1:01:42 We hear about events, so we’re knowledgeable about them.
1:01:45 So what I asked was, I asked Ms.
1:01:47 Lena to reach out to a handful of schools to figure out, to
1:01:51 provide help with test
1:01:52 pilots to figure out how we can get those to our calendar strike.
1:01:58 So Ms. Lena did a really good job of checking into the different
1:02:02 schools.
1:02:03 And what we developed in the end was, is that for
1:02:07 all forward facing community events, they would,
1:02:12 the districts would form a calendar that would sync to our
1:02:18 calendars,
1:02:19 specific to each group.
1:02:20 So say, for instance, Pat Susan, Sun Tree Elementary,
1:02:24 district four says we have a harvest festival on November 8th.
1:02:28 They know that that harvest festival, when they put it in the
1:02:31 calendar,
1:02:31 just needs to be added to our calendar, very easy.
1:02:34 It adds to our calendar and then it populates to your calendar.
1:02:37 Does that make sense?
1:02:38 You, as an individual, can choose what you want on your calendar.
1:02:42 So prior to the year, Ms. Lena, we go to I-22 schools and
1:02:46 say anything that is facing the community, an event like a
1:02:50 awards ceremony,
1:02:52 a harvest festival, something like that, if you could just add
1:02:55 that to the calendar.
1:02:56 » It’s not getting published, it’s just getting added to our
1:02:58 calendar.
1:02:58 » Correct, yep, yep.
1:03:00 » And for you, if you’re like, look, I know my account, my
1:03:03 schools,
1:03:04 I know exactly where I need to be, you don’t have to request
1:03:07 this at all.
1:03:08 It just gives us an opportunity to know what’s going on inside
1:03:10 of our local
1:03:11 schools, just an opportunity.
1:03:12 And that’s specific to each one of your calendars,
1:03:15 specific to each one of the things you do.
1:03:18 What the process in this would be, sometime between now and
1:03:22 the end of the year, we would get with Ms. Lena and say, hey,
1:03:25 here’s what I would like to see on my calendar.
1:03:28 And then at the beginning of the year, Ms. Lena, or maybe in
1:03:31 July or whatever,
1:03:31 we would reach out to the schools, tell them, and then they
1:03:34 would get a copy.
1:03:36 Very easy.
1:03:37 The next one is the school board calendar.
1:03:43 So there’s a lot of items that we do that get populated to our
1:03:50 districts or
1:03:51 our sheets two weeks in advance, or when they call the next
1:03:53 meeting.
1:03:54 So for instance, we have audit committee meetings.
1:03:57 We have all of these different meetings that we have outside of
1:04:00 our regular
1:04:00 school board meetings and our things.
1:04:03 What I would like to do is have a formal place that all of those
1:04:06 go to also.
1:04:07 So that would be added to that other calendar that we have, so
1:04:10 that we have.
1:04:11 We all receive an email that then populates onto our calendar,
1:04:15 if that makes sense.
1:04:16 What I would like to do is have it formally put in by Lena when
1:04:20 she
1:04:20 receives it too, does that make sense?
1:04:22 So that we have- » I mean,
1:04:24 we do have all the events that we get invited to, and I think
1:04:28 with him,
1:04:28 she would stick them on the calendar, and that was just what
1:04:33 that was.
1:04:33 But we get invited to a lot of different things, and if it’s not
1:04:36 on the calendar,
1:04:37 you’re not checking your email, or you’re in your school visits,
1:04:39 or
1:04:39 you’re like, oh, did I get lost in the shuffle somewhere, and it
1:04:42 fell down.
1:04:42 » Just a formal process for all of the district-wide events
1:04:47 that are not
1:04:47 school-specific, so you have your, like you have all of your-
1:04:52 » Yeah, because this year, and I have already addressed it with
1:04:57 a couple people.
1:04:58 There are a couple things that we didn’t get any information
1:05:01 about,
1:05:02 the secondary science fairs, the elementary people sent them to
1:05:05 us.
1:05:06 And that’s never happened before,
1:05:07 because we’ve gotten those elementary guidance invitations to,
1:05:12 here’s the award ceremony for all of them, here’s where you can
1:05:14 go to the mall,
1:05:15 and see the project.
1:05:17 For some reason, secondary built to the cracks,
1:05:19 also didn’t get an invite to the secondary, the super tennis art
1:05:23 show.
1:05:23 Found out when I got his email.
1:05:25 » His email, correct.
1:05:26 » So yeah, there were a couple things that fell through the
1:05:28 cracks.
1:05:29 » [INAUDIBLE] » But yes, you’re right, and for
1:05:31 like the All County Concert, we do get an email here, would you
1:05:34 like tickets?
1:05:35 But they have those dates well in advance, so you’re right.
1:05:39 If Lena could pull those, honestly, off of the LTP, because-
1:05:44 » Well, the way it works, she doesn’t have to do it.
1:05:46 » I have to read every minute.
1:05:48 » No, no, no, no. » Not unnecessary, no.
1:05:50 » So just so you know, the way it would work is, I’ve been
1:05:54 working with Ms.
1:05:54 Harris, Mr. Chino, and everybody else.
1:05:57 They would have that other calendar that their staff knows that
1:06:00 they have
1:06:00 a district wide event that they’re to put it to this calendar.
1:06:06 And then that will automatically populate.
1:06:08 We don’t want this again, trying to chase down all these
1:06:10 activities.
1:06:11 » Now if they include me in the invite, I can put them right on
1:06:15 the calendar.
1:06:16 » But we want the responsibility to be on them, that if they’re
1:06:19 going to be
1:06:20 putting it into a calendar, cuz I’m sure they’re putting it in
1:06:22 calendars on them,
1:06:23 that they also populate it to ours.
1:06:25 What we would like Lena to do is go through, and at the end of
1:06:28 the year,
1:06:29 it’s gonna be a little bit of a checklist.
1:06:30 But I’ve asked each one of the department heads to put together
1:06:34 a checklist of all
1:06:35 of the dates that we should receive information on.
1:06:37 And then Ms. Lena will have a checklist all the way down.
1:06:40 And she can go through and say, well, I don’t have this one, and
1:06:42 reach out to me.
1:06:43 So that we have them all checked in, and this goes, this isn’t
1:06:47 just those.
1:06:47 But it also goes to the district calendar, so like PM1, PM2, PM3,
1:06:53 right?
1:06:54 We have our achievement data comes out.
1:06:56 » Are you talking about things that are already on the district
1:06:59 calendar?
1:06:59 » Some of those, yeah.
1:07:00 » On the website?
1:07:02 » That we have, and so for instance- » Some of the science
1:07:04 fairs and
1:07:04 things like that are on there, yeah.
1:07:06 » Right, but for instance, the other piece to it is that we
1:07:11 know that during
1:07:11 PM1 we’ll be doing these this week, next year, right?
1:07:16 It’s really exciting for me to try to know that that’s coming
1:07:20 out, so
1:07:20 that we could, and this also helps GCR.
1:07:23 Because GCR, sometimes it’s not notified from our departments of
1:07:27 things that
1:07:27 are happening.
1:07:28 We all know that our PM3 data’s coming out.
1:07:31 We know that our PM3 data’s gonna be real good, so
1:07:34 we can set up an entire communications plan around it.
1:07:37 But what happens is that GCR can’t get that envelope ahead of
1:07:40 time.
1:07:40 Then if they’re gonna leave and they’re trying to deal with
1:07:43 whatever they’re
1:07:43 dealing with there, it’s difficult for them to come out with
1:07:45 something.
1:07:46 So it will help us, it will also help all of the other
1:07:48 departments organize,
1:07:50 all along with GCR.
1:07:51 So now GCR will also have our calendars, so
1:07:54 they’re gonna also have school calendars and everything else.
1:07:56 So the thing that we’d also spend a lot of time doing.
1:07:58 » And also times when to avoid going to school.
1:08:01 » Yeah, that’s right.
1:08:01 » [LAUGH] » That’s why you were-
1:08:03 » That’s right.
1:08:04 » Yeah, cuz they say, we’ll get through this.
1:08:07 » Right. » So the last of the calendar battle
1:08:10 is for us, right?
1:08:11 This is a monster, and well- » I do not-
1:08:14 » [LAUGH]
1:08:15 » Do not want all the scoring events
1:08:18 on the calendar.
1:08:18 » So completely understand.
1:08:20 So if you take, for instance, if you say, I want my district-
1:08:24 » She says the man only has one high school.
1:08:25 » [LAUGH]
1:08:27 » My district’s scoring events, you look, and it might be a
1:08:30 huge amount, right?
1:08:32 So we’re working through that on how to do it.
1:08:34 The first piece is, how the heck do we put all of the events on
1:08:37 calendars?
1:08:38 » We do have some of the calendars- » We’re not even there yet.
1:08:41 » [LAUGH]
1:08:42 » But Mr.
1:08:43 Raffen said that they’re already on calendars.
1:08:46 There’s a company that all of our coaches put the calendars to.
1:08:49 So you go to Max Preps.
1:08:51 If you ever go to Max Preps, they have all of our games on there.
1:08:53 Everything’s already organized.
1:08:55 So he’s looking to find a way that we might be able to have our
1:08:59 calendars set up.
1:09:00 Now, this piece, this sports calendar, is not only for us, but
1:09:04 for our community.
1:09:05 So what we want is, I hear from all of my, we have so many
1:09:10 former athletes,
1:09:10 former leaders in the community that just love to go to sports
1:09:14 games or
1:09:15 events like what you’re talking about with music and everything
1:09:19 else.
1:09:20 They just would like to have something where they go and they
1:09:22 see all of these.
1:09:23 So that’s the last piece, is developing some kind of calendar
1:09:26 that we may be able
1:09:27 to go to and the community may be able to go to that has these
1:09:32 events for sports.
1:09:33 And some of those larger ones that other people can attend.
1:09:36 That is a monster, but it’s doable.
1:09:39 We just need to get through it.
1:09:41 » I just can’t help but think when you tell us what would solve
1:09:43 this is that
1:09:44 every school has dated their calendar on their website.
1:09:47 This would make it the easiest way to be able to grab the
1:09:49 information and-
1:09:51 » As hard as it’s usually somebody who also has a lot of other
1:09:55 things.
1:09:56 » But we get a stipend for every school board.
1:09:58 So for instance, we get a stipend at every school for
1:10:01 somebody to do exactly that.
1:10:03 Now it’s so minimal that if you told somebody we gave you a stipend,
1:10:07 they’d probably give it back to you.
1:10:09 Because the amount of work it takes is not, which is a problem.
1:10:12 » Well, not really though, we should be trying these events.
1:10:14 Like I said, lots of the things that are popping up in the show.
1:10:17 » If there was a way, and I don’t know, this may be a future
1:10:19 conversation.
1:10:20 But you know how in Google calendars you can subscribe to a
1:10:26 calendar?
1:10:26 » Right.
1:10:27 » Like our kids, my kids’ band has a Google calendar and
1:10:31 you should please subscribe to it.
1:10:32 And all of a sudden, all the band events just got pulled into my
1:10:35 Google calendar.
1:10:37 So we have something like that.
1:10:38 So if I, as a board member, wanted all of the athletic school.
1:10:44 I could subscribe to, or subscribe to this school’s calendar,
1:10:48 a basketball’s calendar, but it’s kind of a choice.
1:10:51 So I mean, honestly, the athletic events are a lot easier to
1:10:54 find because of
1:10:55 Max Preps, but if someone wants to know when are the band
1:10:59 concerts,
1:10:59 park concerts, those kind of things are a lot harder to find
1:11:04 because
1:11:04 there’s not a statewide organization of them.
1:11:08 » And I will tell you, so if I’m a citizen that lives in
1:11:11 Melbourne, and
1:11:12 I want to possibly go to a football game.
1:11:15 They don’t know the average citizen to go to Melbourne.
1:11:18 And that’s us, and nor should they have to try to say, well,
1:11:22 there might be a website somewhere that I can go to and all that
1:11:26 stuff.
1:11:26 But the idea would be, we figure this out, put it in a central
1:11:30 location.
1:11:31 It might not be us, it might be a third party that does this
1:11:34 because they want
1:11:35 to advertise for district events, they work for it.
1:11:38 Figure that out, and then allow the people, part of our legacy
1:11:41 folks and
1:11:42 all of that to be able to be sent to a community that also can
1:11:45 have one.
1:11:47 Though we, I think I was spoiled with my last historic book.
1:11:52 It was on the whole page of today’s events that we clicked it.
1:11:56 It was the calendar of all of that school’s events, it was a
1:12:00 Google calendar.
1:12:02 But it was, there was times I had to go to it for certain things.
1:12:05 But it did the public do today’s events, this week’s events.
1:12:10 But if you went forward, it would go to the big calendar of all
1:12:13 the events at
1:12:14 that school.
1:12:15 So, could you talk to the audience?
1:12:17 [BLANK_AUDIO]
1:12:22 » The idea is that sports is in progress, okay?
1:12:26 All right, so the next one is, new board member guy, Mr. Thomas
1:12:31 and I.
1:12:32 Was I working on this?
1:12:34 Just wanted to kind of overview where we are to see if there’s
1:12:38 anything you feel
1:12:38 needs to be added to it before we kind of bring it forward so
1:12:41 that it’s well-trapped.
1:12:42 So this is just so you know, the elected officials come in, we
1:12:46 all live it.
1:12:47 And then what happens is, which is the, what do I do with my
1:12:50 goal?
1:12:50 What do I do?
1:12:51 Where do I go?
1:12:52 And it’s like a fireball strike.
1:12:54 So what happens is, is that with all of these,
1:12:57 there’s never been a four lines document that says, here’s what
1:13:02 you should do.
1:13:04 With that, every time somebody has it happen to them, we always
1:13:08 say,
1:13:08 we need to put something together, so I’m gonna get it done.
1:13:12 So these were some of the areas.
1:13:13 » There was a mind fair once upon a time, but
1:13:16 you didn’t want to start from scratch.
1:13:19 » Yeah, no.
1:13:20 » The most helpful thing to me that we had to take out was the
1:13:23 map of the SF.
1:13:24 Within the last line, I didn’t give you another one because it’s
1:13:28 a secure document.
1:13:30 You go to the red trash can and it just depends on which way you’re
1:13:34 coming.
1:13:34 » Yeah.
1:13:35 » Okay, leaders always get to walk me to wherever.
1:13:38 » I just wander around eight months in and I figure it out.
1:13:41 I’m like, I’m just gonna be where I’m gonna be.
1:13:42 » Maybe a little closer and that’s the Bible text.
1:13:44 » No, I just go in, there’s different doors, and I’ll walk
1:13:46 through,
1:13:46 pass through, and it’s the trash can thing.
1:13:49 » [INAUDIBLE] » So what I had was,
1:13:55 hopefully, once we have these calendars set,
1:13:58 an explanation of how the calendar’s working.
1:14:01 We also have what the laws that overview and govern us as board
1:14:06 members.
1:14:07 Just so you guys know, I asked MSDA if they actually had one of
1:14:11 these documents
1:14:12 that we could have to do board members.
1:14:14 And then somehow I got elected to put it together for MSDA.
1:14:17 » So this is gonna be- » Well, they probably have their
1:14:20 training
1:14:20 materials that they put together for the new board member
1:14:23 academy.
1:14:23 » Yeah. » Which adds a lot to-
1:14:25 » Right, they just don’t have a guide
1:14:26 that says, here’s basically every time you have a question,
1:14:30 you can go here to try to figure out who to ask or where to go.
1:14:33 So the laws that we’re doing, I think it’s very instrumental for
1:14:36 new board members to understand the roles that we have based
1:14:40 upon what we have.
1:14:41 Cuz there’s some misconception over what you can and can’t do as
1:14:43 a board member.
1:14:44 I think that always gets us in trouble.
1:14:46 It doesn’t mean Blackbirds tell you that I was the biggest thing
1:14:49 in the blood for
1:14:50 six months out of my school board career.
1:14:52 » What, just the first- » What?
1:14:54 I was like, you know we’re gonna give you a hard time.
1:14:56 » Yeah, but listen, you can think of that now, beautiful.
1:15:02 » You can’t let that slide, come on.
1:15:03 » Anyway, so the laws that we’re doing, overviewing the
1:15:07 Sunshine Laws also.
1:15:08 Because I think that some of that is part of the conversation.
1:15:12 The procurement laws, a lot of top defenders, stuff like that.
1:15:16 Board meeting review, how the process of the board will go quite
1:15:20 frankly,
1:15:20 like not show up if you like deer at headlights.
1:15:24 And then process review for both how the board speaks to Dr.
1:15:28 Rendell, how they speak to cabinet members, the requests, stuff
1:15:32 like that.
1:15:33 These are some of the main topics, and I did not have a map of
1:15:36 ESF.
1:15:36 But I have that map down on my list.
1:15:39 » And something else, I don’t mean it’s on your list, but
1:15:44 there are certain things that come up that as a new board member,
1:15:47 you don’t know.
1:15:47 If it’s something that all board members are going to, is it
1:15:50 like making it,
1:15:51 for instance, audit committees?
1:15:52 Is that something that’s a must attend, a recommended attend?
1:15:56 » What is your report?
1:15:58 » Yeah, cuz some people, like for my situation, I have to a lot
1:16:03 of times
1:16:03 prioritize between state jobs and school boards.
1:16:08 And if it’s something that I’m not saying, you want to attend
1:16:11 everything.
1:16:11 But sometimes, there are those things that you have to
1:16:14 prioritize.
1:16:14 So no matter what, it’s a must-be event, so it’s good to know.
1:16:18 » I would say that that is awesome.
1:16:19 So I feel that then, do you have an opinion on that?
1:16:22 » No. » We’re gonna get a rough draft.
1:16:23 And then you have to be able to look at it, and you have to be
1:16:25 able to say, hey,
1:16:26 I do that, I do not like this, here’s what we need to add.
1:16:29 But I just wanted to make sure- » The shooting for August,
1:16:33 because we might have people who were elected in August,
1:16:38 that some people get the three month run.
1:16:39 » Right. » Some of us only got a two week run up.
1:16:42 » Yeah.
1:16:43 » So either way, if we have somebody who’s elected in August,
1:16:46 and
1:16:46 at least by September, you can hand them, because I know you
1:16:51 guys got three months.
1:16:52 » I was on it.
1:16:53 » Y’all had time to- » To draw up, yeah.
1:16:57 » Right. » But I was laughing at my first board
1:17:00 meeting, because I wasn’t officially until November, right?
1:17:03 It’s fun to hold, but something new to me, I was like, well,
1:17:05 check me out, everything on the board, the packet of paper was
1:17:09 this thick.
1:17:10 It was that much stuff that I go through every time.
1:17:12 You can’t look at it digitally, because you didn’t have access
1:17:14 to it, and so
1:17:15 anyway, we’re officially in this form in, but yeah.
1:17:18 » So I think, to that note, I think by the end of April, I’ll
1:17:22 bring this forward,
1:17:22 so that by the time we go away this summer,
1:17:25 we have a working document that is solid and true.
1:17:28 The goal would be, yes, that if somebody is elected in August,
1:17:32 that they’re able to see kind of the processes and be ready.
1:17:35 Or if they’re elected in November, that they kind of can review
1:17:38 it.
1:17:38 One of the other things I have on here is that they meet, it’s
1:17:42 really written
1:17:43 in a small quote, that they meet with each one of us
1:17:46 individually prior to Christmas.
1:17:49 And Paul and I have talked about this before.
1:17:52 Paul can then schedule a meeting where the two of us can come
1:17:54 down.
1:17:54 It can be sunshine, and we can sit, and we just sit down and
1:17:57 talk.
1:17:58 Here’s what I see, this is how things work.
1:18:01 And I think that, beyond just the document, or inside of the
1:18:05 meeting is gonna go through.
1:18:06 » Yeah, but we did that all together meeting with John where we
1:18:11 could,
1:18:12 we could ask questions, cuz I think we could talk about
1:18:16 retirement and insurance.
1:18:18 » Yeah, we actually held a meeting.
1:18:20 » Yeah, that would- » We would have two meetings anyways,
1:18:22 cuz two, once they’re the person, whether it’s at the primary or
1:18:27 at the official Sunshine Attachments, I send you all a letter.
1:18:32 Once you get elected, you’re- » I think you called me on the
1:18:35 night of
1:18:35 my election to warn me about sunshine, I was like, Paul, nice to
1:18:38 meet you.
1:18:38 » [LAUGH] » Nice to meet you, that freaked me out.
1:18:42 » [LAUGH] » Don’t break the law.
1:18:45 » Say hey, I told you about emails, I told you about emailing,
1:18:49 and come on.
1:18:50 But I also sent to, I can’t remember if it was an EME or a CAM.
1:18:54 Like a whole batch of all that people’s stuff, so it might be in
1:18:58 that binder or
1:18:59 whatever, and they ask me for everything, and a board member
1:19:02 would need to know.
1:19:03 So you get hold of that, I can update everything in there to
1:19:07 find out what-
1:19:07 » Yeah.
1:19:09 » How this being has come to you.
1:19:11 » Yeah, but CAM has like a white binder.
1:19:15 If I go dig into my stuff, it’s probably in a pile, like next to
1:19:19 my bed.
1:19:20 » So we get- » Find my printed copy.
1:19:22 » So since we’re kind of in that room real quick, since you’re
1:19:27 talking about it.
1:19:29 We are in process of, one of the problems we have is that all of
1:19:33 our school board
1:19:33 documents we have in the back room, that is one of the craziest
1:19:37 rooms I’ve ever
1:19:38 seen at ESM, and inside of it we have documents that actually go
1:19:41 back to 1900.
1:19:43 And so, yeah, like W.J. Creel was a school board member in 1920.
1:19:48 I read that, we read that.
1:19:50 So what I’m going to do is I’m going to work to digitize all of
1:19:54 our old documents
1:19:55 before they become too old.
1:19:57 » All of them.
1:19:58 » Yeah, they’re literally all in parts.
1:20:00 We need to save those, right?
1:20:02 In doing so, if we find that legal document,
1:20:05 that packet that you’re speaking to, I think we can bring that
1:20:09 forward.
1:20:09 My goal with this was to basically summarize in a like five to
1:20:14 ten page
1:20:15 document real quick with reference to go deeper if they want to.
1:20:20 That way they’re not.
1:20:21 Because if I got a point finder, they got a point finder in
1:20:24 front of you.
1:20:24 » Like links, so you’re talking about like a digital document
1:20:27 with links.
1:20:28 » Well, we can get something- » FAQ for, you know, for board
1:20:33 members.
1:20:34 » Okay. » And the reason is-
1:20:35 » We can start with the person they have to do is go back and
1:20:37 watch the last like two or three board meetings.
1:20:39 That’s like a good starting point.
1:20:42 » Well, and I always recommend that people go and watch the
1:20:46 November meeting.
1:20:47 Because it’s such a different- » It is, well, it is.
1:20:51 » And honestly, my first couple of years, I would do that.
1:20:57 I would go, because we only do it once a year.
1:20:59 I would go back and watch the previous three or four years,
1:21:01 just the first 15 minutes to try to- » You actually told me
1:21:04 that.
1:21:05 » I did, I did.
1:21:06 I’d go watch it so that you know what the heck you’re about to
1:21:09 do,
1:21:09 because it’s so awkward.
1:21:10 And the only way to tell you is for you just to go watch
1:21:15 yourself.
1:21:15 » Yeah, that’s good advice.
1:21:17 » So yeah.
1:21:18 » So I’m going through the history of the school board also.
1:21:23 So the goal would be to not only digitize all of our records.
1:21:26 But they also had a list of school board members going back in
1:21:30 what years,
1:21:31 all the way to the inception of school board.
1:21:33 I will tell you we engaged with the supervisor of elections,
1:21:36 because that’s an area that we can find.
1:21:38 He gave me a link that, and as they know, it goes to 1980.
1:21:42 And then he indicated that the rest of them are on micro beach.
1:21:45 So he’s going to start trying to organize his micro beach to get
1:21:49 the old elections.
1:21:50 I offered for our students at the high school to go volunteer at
1:21:55 a time like
1:21:55 a host of kids that are going to be working on some of this
1:21:59 stuff.
1:22:00 So they can go over there and work with them to a real cool
1:22:02 project.
1:22:03 But he was saying this is a decent project because some of his
1:22:07 micro fish
1:22:08 is turned into vinegar, so you might lose some stuff.
1:22:13 Because you’re only legally obligated to keep defectors for so
1:22:16 long.
1:22:17 So I also called the head of the board.
1:22:19 » You’re doing an accessory, an accessory to the school board.
1:22:23 » An old friend of mine.
1:22:24 So an old friend of mine named Michael Bloomstroke is who headed
1:22:28 the Florida or
1:22:29 the Brevard County Historical Commission that is at the Pico
1:22:33 library.
1:22:33 Has now moved up to like number three in the public library
1:22:37 system.
1:22:37 I spoke to him.
1:22:38 He’s going to work on getting us any documentation that we need
1:22:41 from him.
1:22:41 Because they have all of the old articles going back to the
1:22:45 early 1800s inside there.
1:22:47 And so he’s going to put it together.
1:22:48 Now we used to have a group called the Mosquito Beaters that I
1:22:51 worked with on
1:22:51 some of these projects.
1:22:53 And I was going to be named called when he was laughing because
1:22:56 he said,
1:22:56 it’s amazing because they’re literally stopping their group this
1:23:00 month.
1:23:01 And so I told him, I said, well, maybe we need to tell him we
1:23:03 got something else for
1:23:04 them to work on.
1:23:05 So just to get you guys to have this little historical project,
1:23:08 so
1:23:08 if you hear me hear things like what puts Matt Susan in some
1:23:10 back room and
1:23:11 grafting these things, know that that’s the reason why.
1:23:15 » There’s probably some historical society behind it, I’m
1:23:17 wondering who it is.
1:23:19 » Well, there’s a lot of historical stuff.
1:23:20 » That’s who I talked to.
1:23:21 » There’s a lot.
1:23:22 » There’s the Florida Historical Society at the Omaha Library
1:23:26 in Cocoa City,
1:23:27 Cocoa Village, or City of Cocoa in Cocoa Village.
1:23:30 Then there’s the Cali Library that had that Cocoa that actually
1:23:34 passed
1:23:35 all the old ones.
1:23:37 We can focus on the one that’s in Library of Cocoa, or
1:23:40 the other ones in the state.
1:23:42 My goal is to put together the history of the whole country and
1:23:45 superintendents.
1:23:45 Sorry, that’s on the screen.
1:23:47 » Okay, I wanted to try to set another off-site in August.
1:23:54 And kind of formalize it as three off-site meetings for a year
1:23:59 type of thing.
1:24:00 So that once we come in December, talk about what all the new
1:24:03 initiatives are,
1:24:04 we talk to a new member, that’s it, whenever it is.
1:24:07 We come back in March to say, here’s where we are with those
1:24:10 initiatives.
1:24:10 And then once we start the school board in August,
1:24:14 I would say that we would kind of map, completely flexible.
1:24:19 » Why are we doing, so just for new members, or what?
1:24:23 » No, no, just have three off-sites to say.
1:24:26 So the first one is in December is, this is what we’re trying to
1:24:30 do.
1:24:30 » All right. » The second one is, here’s where we are.
1:24:32 And then in August, when we’re back, it’s, here’s what we did.
1:24:36 And I think that helps.
1:24:39 I would like to just say, and then you can check with people
1:24:42 here to schedule this.
1:24:43 But I would like to formalize that into a process.
1:24:47 » So three time a year plan.
1:24:50 » And then once we get the three times, then we can formalize
1:24:53 an agenda.
1:24:54 That we’ll have for each one of those.
1:24:55 But these are the core of what it is.
1:24:58 So everybody knows we’re coming back in March to review.
1:25:01 What will be the direction to in December and September.
1:25:07 » I don’t know if this is the time to say it, but is there
1:25:09 going to be a place on
1:25:09 this agenda for new initiatives where you are working?
1:25:12 » Yeah, there’s new businesses at the bottom, okay?
1:25:15 Depending on how much you get through.
1:25:19 » Just because if they, let’s get rid of these meetings.
1:25:21 That would be a working document then.
1:25:25 » Cuz there’s stuff we come up with.
1:25:26 » Right, right.
1:25:28 Through that, over the course of a year, there’s new projects
1:25:30 that come up.
1:25:31 That you might wanna get more aware of.
1:25:32 It’s just something that’s- » Yeah, and then I will tell you,
1:25:35 Dr. Inbell did not go over mine, because we were sitting on.
1:25:38 [LAUGH] » All right, the joint, so
1:25:43 as you all know, in the past, I have offered to try to set up
1:25:47 some sort of joint
1:25:48 city meeting, right?
1:25:49 I did go over very well as far as coordinating what we do and
1:25:53 all that stuff.
1:25:54 My vision would be this, is that we, as a group, or individually,
1:26:00 we would go to our cities.
1:26:01 I would formally with the city councils of each one of the
1:26:04 cities.
1:26:05 In that meeting, we would bring our principals and stuff like
1:26:08 that for
1:26:09 an introduction.
1:26:10 We think that there’s a disconnect in some of our cities with
1:26:13 some of
1:26:13 the representatives at our schools.
1:26:15 And it’s not because of anybody being a certain way, but
1:26:18 sometimes the city official represents certain schools and does
1:26:21 not go in.
1:26:22 What I would like to do is, for instance, the city of Melbourne,
1:26:25 which I’d like to go to, we would sit down, bring our principals,
1:26:28 just do an introduction.
1:26:29 Here’s what we’re doing.
1:26:30 Here’s what’s happening inside your schools.
1:26:32 We would like you to come to Clapham’s here because we have our
1:26:35 calendar now.
1:26:36 It’s our calendar for you guys to come to.
1:26:39 Here’s ceremonial keys to our schools kind of thing.
1:26:43 And just kind of reform, not talking about any,
1:26:46 we’re gonna do this, this, or this.
1:26:49 But I think it would be well received.
1:26:51 I would like to do it with the whole board, but
1:26:55 it may be more appropriate to have individuals go to represent
1:26:58 the city.
1:26:59 That’s it.
1:26:59 » I would love it if it would be us kind of invading their
1:27:04 meetings.
1:27:04 It’s for giving us like a 20 minute session.
1:27:07 If it could be like a cheerleading time of here, let’s introduce
1:27:10 you.
1:27:11 This is the virtual Melbourne, which also I have part of
1:27:14 Melbourne’s doing.
1:27:16 Here’s the principal of Melbourne High School.
1:27:18 Here’s the principal of O’Gally High School.
1:27:20 Technically, here’s where the principal of Clompet High School
1:27:22 goes to Melbourne.
1:27:24 Here’s some accolades for the previous academic year.
1:27:29 And all the way down to the elementary, here’s some events
1:27:34 coming up.
1:27:35 We invite you to participate in, blah, blah, blah.
1:27:37 But I mean, I think that would be intact.
1:27:39 » No, I think our biggest problem’s gonna be a lot of [INAUDIBLE]
1:27:41 on Tuesdays,
1:27:42 which is when we beat my heart, and so that’s gonna be the
1:27:44 struggle we’re in.
1:27:45 » But we moved ours in the morning.
1:27:47 » We did one meeting a month, yeah, one morning.
1:27:50 » And I will tell you, when we did this one,
1:27:52 I went down because the board did not want to move forward with
1:27:56 this.
1:27:56 So I went down and met with the city of Palm Bay over, I got
1:28:00 pulled in.
1:28:00 I’m very connected to the Haitian community of Palm Bay.
1:28:03 So they wanted to have a meeting, right?
1:28:05 So we officially had some collaborative meetings, so I brought
1:28:08 some staff.
1:28:09 We worked on after school stuff and everything else, GED kind of
1:28:13 stuff.
1:28:14 But it is a great opportunity for us.
1:28:16 And even if you as an individual, or me and John, and Katie,
1:28:22 or the city of Melbourne, had to do it on an off cycle.
1:28:25 I don’t think that they would like to do that.
1:28:27 I don’t think they would once a year have an objection to having
1:28:30 a meeting if it
1:28:31 doesn’t line up with us, to just sitting down for an hour and
1:28:34 meeting almost.
1:28:35 And I would feel very positive about it, to the point where we
1:28:38 could offer Zoom.
1:28:39 And if they don’t take it, then that’s one thing.
1:28:41 But I think that they would take that opportunity.
1:28:43 So if you guys are okay- » But if we know ahead of time that
1:28:46 the work
1:28:46 is gonna, in the future, is gonna continue to have an
1:28:49 alternating morning evening.
1:28:50 But if we know ahead of time, we can work around if they’re
1:28:53 always.
1:28:54 I mean, a lot of our cities only meet once a month, with smaller
1:28:57 ones, so.
1:28:58 » Yeah, how have you envisioned the smaller cities?
1:29:00 Like, for instance, Melbourne Beach has Gemini Elementary.
1:29:05 You still wanted to use those, so.
1:29:06 » I would go there, and I would say, hey, there’s Gemini
1:29:09 Elementary School.
1:29:10 And even in those smaller ones,
1:29:12 Melbourne Beach is funny because they do work real closely with
1:29:15 them.
1:29:16 » So let’s say they already have a relationship.
1:29:17 » I think it might be an opportunity for us to kinda go to a,
1:29:21 maybe at that point,
1:29:22 talk about some of the other stuff the district is doing, too.
1:29:25 I don’t know the particulars of that.
1:29:27 This is kind of the open sardiness.
1:29:30 I think that would be the secondary conversation would be, hey,
1:29:33 we’d be interested in talking about Gemini and some of the other
1:29:36 things we’re doing.
1:29:37 Because Gemini feeds into those other schools.
1:29:40 So you may have a rep for your kid that lives in Melbourne Beach,
1:29:44 that also goes to Melbourne.
1:29:45 I think that’s where this district is sent to.
1:29:47 You might wanna have Chad Kirk there to say, hey, where your
1:29:52 kids go to high school.
1:29:52 And then talk about those things, and they may not have such a
1:29:56 direct connection.
1:29:58 And then at that point, they may say, hey, we’d really like to
1:30:01 do this.
1:30:03 » Can I suggest, too, that even in the meantime, before we can
1:30:06 set up,
1:30:06 cuz we wouldn’t be able to do all in one year, but a couple of
1:30:09 years, whatever.
1:30:09 We can do that, I mean, GCR could potentially help us set up
1:30:12 asking some of
1:30:13 our city councilors, hey, would you give one of our board
1:30:16 members and
1:30:16 one of our staff members a longer than a three minute, whatever.
1:30:21 Just to present to you what’s going on in the schools that are
1:30:25 within the county.
1:30:27 And we have appropriate staff to come with us, and they’ll give
1:30:30 us, like we’ve done.
1:30:32 We’ve let people come in and do presentations, conventions,
1:30:35 things like that.
1:30:35 » And we also have the League of Cities that has their monthly
1:30:39 meeting, and
1:30:40 even if we did, we got 15 minutes every meeting to present next
1:30:44 number of schools.
1:30:46 So I used to do that, but it was not official.
1:30:48 So every time they had me, I would call them and say, hey, this
1:30:51 is what’s happening.
1:30:52 I would pop up and speak for three or
1:30:54 four minutes because there was always something that they needed
1:30:56 to know about.
1:30:57 So I think if you guys are okay with this as a concept, I’ll go
1:31:00 back to GCR and
1:31:01 say, okay, let’s formalize this thing and bring it back to you
1:31:03 guys.
1:31:04 My goal would be to try to get somewhere and have these
1:31:08 conversations and
1:31:09 try to do it for the beginning of next year.
1:31:11 Because there’s not enough time to run it up, you know what I
1:31:13 mean?
1:31:14 » Okay, all right, I just thought you mentioned League of
1:31:17 Cities.
1:31:17 I would actually present state schools to League of Cities two
1:31:20 years from now.
1:31:21 » This would be a good year for you to get through it, let’s do
1:31:24 that again.
1:31:25 » Yeah, all right, so just real quick, policy reviews.
1:31:30 So basically, we have, I wanted to put inside of the calendar
1:31:35 every year,
1:31:36 we know when the legislative session is going to end.
1:31:40 We know when all the laws will be approved by the governor of
1:31:45 San Jose County.
1:31:45 But we need to formalize a system across the county, across the
1:31:49 year that says,
1:31:50 okay, during this time, we know that all of those are in.
1:31:54 We’ll need to bring forward any changes from the legislature for
1:31:58 policy review, if that makes sense.
1:32:00 » I think we already have it, but we know the process.
1:32:02 They sent us a packet pretty, within a couple months, right?
1:32:06 [INAUDIBLE]
1:32:36 Because in some cases, instead of us bringing up, we wanna
1:32:40 change some of our
1:32:40 policies, we can just put it to that date so that we’re not
1:32:44 rolling with a bunch of
1:32:45 policies throughout the year, does that make sense?
1:32:48 » I don’t know, I hesitate to, it feels like kind of locking us
1:32:54 into blocks,
1:32:54 and I think the flexibility, I mean, there’s not been, really,
1:32:59 to me,
1:32:59 the bigger problem with policy review has been the time when we’ve
1:33:03 had a whole bunch
1:33:04 of issues over time, as opposed to- » We are on it.
1:33:08 We’ve gone more toward a twice a year [INAUDIBLE]
1:33:13 we’ve gone more toward the twice a year for the big ones.
1:33:17 But we’ve had issues this year for the flexibility [INAUDIBLE]
1:33:21 we need to [INAUDIBLE] change the policies [INAUDIBLE]
1:33:26 » Look, for instance,
1:33:28 the twice a year review says, what kind of review it is?
1:33:34 » I think there is supposed to be after legislative session, so
1:33:37 probably anywhere, depending on the year, September is when you’re
1:33:42 gonna be there.
1:33:42 So those are rolling in after staff gets the changes [INAUDIBLE]
1:33:50 » We’re gonna be changing a lot of our
1:33:53 policies coming out from the state.
1:33:56 So for me, as a person that says, I’ve got some changes that I
1:34:00 wanna make,
1:34:00 I would lump them into that, does that make sense?
1:34:03 It’s not saying that you have to, you can’t bring policy up and
1:34:07 change it.
1:34:08 All it’s saying is formalizing the actual process of how and
1:34:11 when we actually bring up the majority of our policies.
1:34:14 » There was a grant bill this year that would take us out of
1:34:18 the APA.
1:34:18 Which would be nice, which shortens that process.
1:34:22 I have to correct what there is on the bill.
1:34:26 » So we have existing policies that need to be reviewed.
1:34:29 We have those policies that come up, and then we have the new
1:34:34 state laws that come up.
1:34:35 All I’m saying is, I’m not saying that we are stuck to only
1:34:38 doing things.
1:34:39 But I would like to formalize the dates along the year that when
1:34:43 we would actually
1:34:44 have some buckets to do that.
1:34:46 So there’s a law, for instance, the 365 policy that I’ll talk
1:34:51 about in a second.
1:34:52 That I would like to, but it doesn’t matter if we do it exactly
1:34:55 this year.
1:34:56 I’d like to put it there, so that we know that that’s a time
1:34:58 period that we can do.
1:35:00 Does that make sense?
1:35:02 » I just don’t feel strongly about the necessity for formalizing
1:35:06 that.
1:35:07 I mean, the difference- » Yeah, I know, and that makes sense.
1:35:09 » They come when they come.
1:35:10 » The difference is- » They’re not having-
1:35:13 » It’s a very busy schedule, right?
1:35:15 So what I can do is I can allocate on my calendar, if I know
1:35:18 that all the policies
1:35:19 are, the majority of them are coming out.
1:35:22 I can allocate three days worth of calendar reviews so that I
1:35:26 know that I can do that.
1:35:27 Sometimes things come up in bulk, and I’m trying to scramble to
1:35:30 review them.
1:35:32 Does that make sense?
1:35:32 I think John here thinks that way, it’s made up of stuff like
1:35:35 that, so.
1:35:36 » Yeah, I mean, I find that I’m one that doesn’t look like a
1:35:38 policy review.
1:35:39 So I just want people to watch the initial and go, well, these
1:35:42 are all policies.
1:35:43 And it’ll be really important to fix it by a state statute.
1:35:45 But I don’t oppose having them set at a very certain time.
1:35:49 I mean, we’re a policy making board, we should do policies
1:35:52 pretty much
1:35:52 [INAUDIBLE] » As long as we’re not limiting.
1:35:55 I mean, I just think as we come up, we usually have policy
1:35:59 changes around
1:35:59 the time that we’re doing student code conduct, mostly right now.
1:36:03 » Yeah, but this one prevents from bringing up policy at other
1:36:06 times.
1:36:07 If that’s what you’re concerned about, it’s making choices.
1:36:10 » I also want to lock it into check time here, because it’s
1:36:12 falling into when we
1:36:13 have an early session that we did this year, Neil said there’s
1:36:16 that earlier.
1:36:17 We have a late session, a super late session like that.
1:36:19 Unless you’re, then it comes out later.
1:36:20 So maybe what would be helpful, especially if you were to get
1:36:26 busy schedules.
1:36:27 Is as soon as we get the NOLA update, all of our student notes
1:36:31 can say, hey,
1:36:32 staff just got the NOLA update.
1:36:34 You guys can expect a batch of policies to hit in the next two
1:36:39 months, right?
1:36:40 » Just for transparency, absolutely.
1:36:42 This would not be something that we’re gonna set and
1:36:44 say in September every year, cuz they don’t change.
1:36:46 » But at the beginning of the year, just leaving us, we’d come
1:36:50 in and say, okay,
1:36:51 you know the legislative session is on March, let’s reach out to
1:36:54 NOLA.
1:36:54 NOLA will tell us, we will be sending you your batch here.
1:36:58 And then we can put that down on the calendar and just let us
1:37:00 know.
1:37:00 It’s just kind of formalizing the process.
1:37:03 » Okay. » Can I speak to him?
1:37:05 » Yeah.
1:37:06 » Paul, does Ron get that information already?
1:37:09 » NOLA doesn’t have a deadline for it.
1:37:11 We contact them, when are we gonna get them?
1:37:14 And they’ll say, well, we’re working on now.
1:37:16 We hope by this date, but they run over, sometimes they’re
1:37:20 quicker.
1:37:21 » Can you, and when you do that, that way I can-
1:37:24 » But it’s within 30 days.
1:37:25 » And then- » Sometimes it’s fine.
1:37:27 Depends on the legislative session.
1:37:28 Like some years, there’s a whole bunch that requires mass.
1:37:32 And they can’t even get them all out quickly.
1:37:35 So don’t do half of them on an early batch.
1:37:37 They’ll issue a special report later on with the rest of them.
1:37:42 So it just depends on them giving it, like this year, we’re
1:37:45 pretty wide.
1:37:46 So I would expect that it wouldn’t happen from 30 to 60 days.
1:37:51 » Usually, you need to be able to do the rule, I think.
1:37:54 » Yeah, that’s the way it’s processed.
1:37:55 » Yeah, it could be a little.
1:37:58 If the statute is, yeah, directing the DOE to do something.
1:38:01 You’re on DOE schedule at that point, and sometimes they’ll say
1:38:05 by December,
1:38:05 the rule needs to be out, and it’ll be January before they
1:38:08 actually get the rule.
1:38:10 » What I’m hearing is that you, as a board member, would like
1:38:12 as much time as
1:38:13 possible before the first work session.
1:38:16 Which is really the one that we have the most ability to make
1:38:20 changes.
1:38:20 So you’re wanting as much heads up.
1:38:23 And a lot of times work sessions, we don’t get those agendas
1:38:25 until,
1:38:26 we don’t get them the two weeks, or maybe it’s for my board
1:38:28 meetings.
1:38:29 So, and I agree, especially if we’re gonna have a big batch.
1:38:31 I want it, even though I don’t have a full-time job outside of
1:38:34 this,
1:38:34 I want it as much as possible, because that’s a lot to read
1:38:37 through.
1:38:38 So- » [INAUDIBLE]
1:38:40 » Right, that’s what I’m saying.
1:38:49 We want staff to give us those redline versions as soon as they
1:38:54 possibly
1:38:55 can give them to us, and not five days, seven days.
1:38:59 If they can give them a full 14 days before, or a different day.
1:39:03 » [INAUDIBLE] » Yeah.
1:39:06 » What I’m trying to just say is that right now,
1:39:10 during the formal policy review, we don’t have specific.
1:39:15 And this is what this is all about, is just organizing it.
1:39:19 Specific time that we actually would put in, that this is in
1:39:23 July, in June.
1:39:24 And they will review all of our policies for updates that we may
1:39:28 need.
1:39:28 And if any board member wishes to possibly update that review.
1:39:32 » You’re talking about outside of New York, cuz New York, we
1:39:34 can’t go-
1:39:34 » Right, right, right.
1:39:35 So the state has theirs, it’s gonna be a moving target.
1:39:38 » And within two years, you guys will be hitting that five year
1:39:41 mark of all the ones
1:39:43 we reviewed in 23, then you’ll need to start that 28, 29, 30,
1:39:48 all that.
1:39:49 So that makes sense to do that, especially at the time of the
1:39:52 year.
1:39:52 » [INAUDIBLE]
1:39:59 » So one of the other things, so if we’re good on that,
1:40:02 we’ll put that together when we get back.
1:40:05 One of the things I want to talk about in review this is just,
1:40:08 I’m gonna try to bring this up once I get a little bit more
1:40:09 information.
1:40:10 Currently, we, as fellow students, have been only allowed to
1:40:14 stay out for
1:40:14 a full year, okay?
1:40:16 And when that, in some instances, those are students that have
1:40:20 done something so
1:40:20 egregious that I feel that they should not be able to come back
1:40:25 to our schools,
1:40:26 as far as a threat to our schools.
1:40:28 And we’ve had situations where some of these students have gone
1:40:32 to one school,
1:40:32 done something, and then just popped up in another school.
1:40:35 And there’s nothing our school can do about it.
1:40:37 So after 365 days, if there’s been a threat to our schools,
1:40:41 then this student can come back and go to another school.
1:40:44 And what that does is it really,
1:40:47 I understand that we want to try to get every child the
1:40:51 opportunity.
1:40:52 But for us, it disrupts schools, it puts security into a
1:40:56 situation.
1:40:58 So what I would like to do is have you guys just take a look at
1:41:00 it,
1:41:01 talk to Officer Cline, talk to Doctor Nabelle, and possibly
1:41:04 petition the state.
1:41:06 This is not a school board, we cannot keep them out for next
1:41:10 year.
1:41:11 That’s one of the things I want to try to do.
1:41:13 But I want you guys to be understandable.
1:41:17 » This is actually the remainder of this year and all of the
1:41:19 rest of the year.
1:41:20 » So they still are allowed to come back.
1:41:23 [BLANK_AUDIO]
1:41:53 » You can put it in there and then not have them.
1:41:56 » And we have to educate them, so they have to get the
1:41:58 education.
1:41:59 So it’s up to the superintendent to have that statutory place in
1:42:02 there.
1:42:03 [BLANK_AUDIO]
1:42:04 » Because if they’re expelled, it’s spelled.
1:42:06 » If they’re fully expelled- » They’re expelled without
1:42:10 services.
1:42:10 » Right, and we’re not providing anything.
1:42:12 So at the end of that 365 plus a year, we have no else.
1:42:18 » Yeah, there’s actually a bill in the legislature right now
1:42:20 that’s
1:42:20 a little off the expense.
1:42:22 » Yeah, I was thinking that I’d seen that, it was in there last
1:42:24 year.
1:42:25 Maybe we should have made it through, because that is when you
1:42:27 start to limit.
1:42:28 » Last year was about, you had to have a meeting, and
1:42:33 they could have a hearing if we were gonna extend them for
1:42:37 certain offenses.
1:42:38 » Like weapons?
1:42:39 » Yeah, weapons on campus.
1:42:41 We could say, hey, the remainder of the year you brought the gun
1:42:44 and
1:42:45 all of the next wasn’t enough, we’re gonna extend it for another
1:42:47 school year.
1:42:48 But you had to offer them another hearing.
1:42:50 And you had to justify why they needed to be expelled for that
1:42:53 admission.
1:42:54 » Okay, but that one did it pass?
1:42:56 » It did.
1:42:57 » It did, okay, so we do have that option currently.
1:43:00 » You have that option.
1:43:02 » Okay, and is it written as a flexibility?
1:43:04 » Yeah, no, he has a place in the flexibility.
1:43:06 » I mean, this is gonna be in the most extreme.
1:43:08 This is not just, you got in a big fight, and you’re at the most
1:43:12 extreme.
1:43:12 Someone who caused serious potential danger or things to get to
1:43:18 this.
1:43:19 I mean, in most of the time, those people are going to be in
1:43:23 jail.
1:43:23 » Not always.
1:43:25 » And we are seeing some in the elementary school area right
1:43:28 now.
1:43:28 » I know.
1:43:29 » That may be qualified for this.
1:43:33 And that makes it very difficult with the law enforcement and
1:43:37 stuff.
1:43:38 » That’s what I can learn.
1:43:40 No, I think we- » Yeah, we should not talk about that.
1:43:43 » Just stay with the statute.
1:43:45 » All right, so new business is the idea with you guys.
1:43:48 » [INAUDIBLE] » Okay, yes.
1:43:54 » [INAUDIBLE] » [INAUDIBLE]
1:43:58 » [INAUDIBLE]
1:44:04 » Wait, what about the communication sponsor?
1:44:06 » That was our barrier to talk about that.
1:44:08 I was just getting them to, I think everybody to report to
1:44:11 calendars.
1:44:12 They are actually- » You just had a list of-
1:44:15 » Yeah, because if we enforce the calendar piece and
1:44:19 the communications will know what’s going on.
1:44:22 The idea when I wrote this was that we needed communication
1:44:25 policies and
1:44:25 communications knew when they were getting stuff, but
1:44:28 if we’re engaging on the calendar, then- » All right, so new
1:44:31 business.
1:44:32 The only thing that I have is that I’d like to try to put
1:44:36 together,
1:44:37 we were with a group, I don’t know what I was, the leaders the
1:44:40 other day.
1:44:41 They were saying we would like to bring our church forward to
1:44:45 help support each one
1:44:45 of the schools, and the idea is that they would meet with one of
1:44:48 the,
1:44:49 this is the same thing we’ve been plugging and generating them
1:44:51 to go in,
1:44:52 meet with the principal and figure out what they need, right?
1:44:54 The problem is, is it’s kind of a secondary support issue with
1:44:58 parents,
1:44:58 that the principals need to kind of figure it out.
1:45:01 What I’d like to do, and it’s not for now, I’ll just bring it
1:45:04 back,
1:45:04 is that each one of the principals puts together a, if I had a
1:45:07 series of
1:45:08 volunteers with peers, so that when they do engage with a school,
1:45:13 they can say, here is something that I need, rather than having
1:45:16 an official
1:45:17 meeting where they have to sit down and figure it out and go
1:45:19 through it,
1:45:20 which is normally during the year, it’s kind of a sunset.
1:45:23 Maybe that’s something we do at a set point or
1:45:25 something like that, that we put together for the volunteers,
1:45:27 that’s all.
1:45:28 » Well, I know, I mean, I always just get,
1:45:32 the elementary’s usually easier to find, most elementary’s.
1:45:35 I think some of our Title I schools, it’s a little bit harder
1:45:37 sometimes for
1:45:37 them to find chaperones or things like that.
1:45:40 But I know I just was emailing with an employee, who’s a friend,
1:45:46 who was gonna have to take time off from the school where she
1:45:49 teaches to go,
1:45:50 because they couldn’t find a volunteer to go to a choir thing.
1:45:54 And I’m like, okay, there’s just gotta be people who are
1:45:57 available.
1:45:57 But if high school parents are more likely to work,
1:46:00 less likely to be actively involved,
1:46:03 that could be random high school support person,
1:46:07 who’s gone through the background process or whatever.
1:46:11 But they’re on a call list, I think it needs to be both ways.
1:46:14 » Yeah. » I think it needs to be the school
1:46:18 presents here’s our usual things that we could use volunteers
1:46:21 for.
1:46:23 But also, the school can have a list of the,
1:46:28 here are people who’ve already been fact-checked, and here,
1:46:31 through the call
1:46:31 list, so if your choir teacher doesn’t have enough chaperones,
1:46:35 they can call Joe Blow, volunteer person who’s already gone
1:46:38 through the process.
1:46:39 And this person knows them, referenced, whatever.
1:46:41 And hey, can you chaperone for this, because we need, and
1:46:45 gives them somewhat else to get. » Or even better,
1:46:48 if they put value as part of their volunteer plan,
1:46:51 we would like to have volunteers come very quickly.
1:46:54 We would like to have, and here’s the case that we would be
1:46:56 doing something with that.
1:46:57 Or we do have these- » Right, here’s the training that you-
1:47:02 » There it is, right, thanks.
1:47:03 » We also need to put, not just school specific things, but
1:47:06 if we can add to that list, like pre-populate those lists with
1:47:09 things that
1:47:10 our district might like to take stock in children.
1:47:12 If you would like, and not every school has to take stock in
1:47:14 children’s students,
1:47:15 but all of our high schools and middle schools.
1:47:17 But if you’re looking to go a further step, because then we’re
1:47:22 feeding people
1:47:22 who might want a longer, more, because that’s like a weekly
1:47:27 commitment.
1:47:28 It could be more volunteer mentors, it takes out the love to
1:47:31 have extra mentors.
1:47:33 » So I think this is great, my theory was bringing up this
1:47:37 concept.
1:47:38 Kick it back to you guys, work through what you think it should
1:47:41 be.
1:47:41 You need a doctor to know, and then you try to bring it forward
1:47:44 by the end of the year.
1:47:45 So there’s some of the principles for the beginning of next year
1:47:47 before they get
1:47:48 engaged, they have the other plan, if that’s okay with you guys.
1:47:52 » The AI policy that we were talking about, we had the
1:47:55 conversation about earlier.
1:47:56 I’d like to bring, I was kind of selected to do the big school
1:48:00 district AI
1:48:01 representative for the polls, the rewards and all that stuff
1:48:04 across the state of Florida.
1:48:06 There’s a policy that I’ve been putting together with some of
1:48:11 the other AI groups.
1:48:12 I’d like to try to get that, my concern is, is that this is a
1:48:17 big deal, right?
1:48:18 If we’re going to get it in, say, implementation before August
1:48:22 of next year.
1:48:24 We may have to kind of workshop this a little bit earlier, so
1:48:27 that if there’s any part of the trainings that we have over the
1:48:30 summer,
1:48:31 that we actually are ready to give that AI.
1:48:33 So I would just- » But I’ve asked nothing to say anything.
1:48:36 » Maybe, I don’t know that, I’ll work with Dr.
1:48:42 Bell, but I’d like to try to get it either March 31st, or the
1:48:46 first meeting in April.
1:48:47 Just to have a conversation about AI, and then have Dr.
1:48:51 Bell and the staff put something together for me.
1:48:55 I’d like to try to move a little bit quicker on that one,
1:48:57 because I’d like to have it ready.
1:48:59 And I think we’re going to have that training on teachers next
1:49:01 year.
1:49:02 Does that make sense?
1:49:02 Yeah, that’s all I have, I can do this, that’s pretty good.
1:49:05 » I’ve got a few things that are more just to make you guys
1:49:07 aware, and
1:49:08 I’d love to get your feedback on some of it.
1:49:12 » Hang on, before we get too long, we really didn’t.
1:49:16 » So is this going to be like a five minute, or like a 15
1:49:19 minute?
1:49:19 » So this is going to be like ten minutes before we’re supposed
1:49:23 to present.
1:49:23 I figured we could get through it, whether we start at 11 or 11,
1:49:27 15.
1:49:27 Our business is done, they present, right?
1:49:30 So if we take a couple minutes with Ms. Campbell, if we can move
1:49:32 quickly through.
1:49:33 » I’ll be real quick, if somebody wants to discuss something.
1:49:38 But I discussed this with Dr.
1:49:40 Rendell, just making you guys aware about we’re exploring the
1:49:43 idea of a sixth grade
1:49:44 field trip, maybe a north-south type of thing for
1:49:48 the sixth graders to tour the CTE programs, and
1:49:52 have a better idea of what’s available to them.
1:49:56 Second thing was a choice fair.
1:49:58 This is just very exploratory, but I think I’ve, Dr.
1:50:00 Rendell and I had one conversation.
1:50:03 But once we have the north-south type thing, but have a central
1:50:07 location where
1:50:08 all parents can come and see what all of our schools have to
1:50:12 offer.
1:50:13 And then do it virtually too, so that if somebody misses, they
1:50:17 can watch that report.
1:50:19 Third thing was a marketing campaign.
1:50:23 And that’s just, I think that Dr. Rendell and I may discuss it.
1:50:28 Maybe not, I’m not trying to surprise him, but the idea being
1:50:30 most private schools or
1:50:33 charter schools do something, they hang their hand on something.
1:50:36 And if you look at it, so just from a purely marketing
1:50:38 standpoint, I’d love for
1:50:40 us to have whatever each elementary school does as well, as be
1:50:44 the school of.
1:50:46 We have the Westmoreland School of Science, obviously.
1:50:49 But without any additional academic standards, if Palm Bay
1:50:53 Elementary is
1:50:53 great in history, that’s their forte, or music, they’re the
1:50:56 school of music.
1:50:57 Portland, Illinois is good at what they do at the end of the
1:50:59 night, so
1:50:59 you’re the school of.
1:51:00 So it doesn’t mean, it just provides or highlights what they do
1:51:04 exceptionally well.
1:51:04 » It might be what their mission statement is.
1:51:06 It might not be a specific thing.
1:51:07 It might be something that they pride themselves as, as far as
1:51:10 action.
1:51:10 But from a marketing standpoint, it’s showing parents that we’re
1:51:15 not just
1:51:16 a general public school, this is what we do.
1:51:18 We’re highlighting what we do well.
1:51:20 So that’s something I’m kind of pursuing.
1:51:24 The fourth thing is along those lines, I noticed in just talking
1:51:28 to some of
1:51:28 the schools that don’t have great promotional videos about their
1:51:32 school.
1:51:32 And I know we’re already tapped in, or stretched in.
1:51:36 So I was thought about trying to get with FIT, and seeing about
1:51:39 if they would have
1:51:40 their communications department, if they would have any interest
1:51:43 in it as a project.
1:51:44 Coming into a Portland, Illinois Elementary and doing a promo
1:51:48 video for me.
1:51:49 And video and video coordination with their students, I don’t
1:51:51 know,
1:51:52 with something along those lines, or Stone, or what have you.
1:51:54 » And some of our communications kids have, I think, five
1:51:58 communication programs
1:51:59 throughout the district for a writer and technical.
1:52:01 Maybe we just have them doing something like that.
1:52:03 » One campus, I came up with this idea for one campus.
1:52:09 I think actually it was Sue’s idea.
1:52:12 But in lieu of having an actual campus where it is in one place,
1:52:16 making a stronger tie between the elementary schools, in my
1:52:20 particular case.
1:52:21 My elementary schools are feeded to, say, Stone or Central.
1:52:24 And then into those high schools, and then into FIT.
1:52:26 But make it a more of a coordinated path, or at least more of a,
1:52:30 whether it’s those schools are communicated.
1:52:33 There’s some kind of, whether it’s academic, or curriculum is
1:52:37 aligned.
1:52:37 But just some way, when you go to an elementary school,
1:52:41 you feel like you’re part of the community, and you can see the
1:52:43 impact.
1:52:44 » You know, these are part of the state in the middle there.
1:52:46 » There you go.
1:52:47 It could be, pick your college, or pick your university, but
1:52:50 that is not just.
1:52:52 So if you’re in a, right now we have these kids, because they’re
1:52:56 maybe not part of,
1:52:56 they felt more like a part of our school community, they may not
1:52:59 be so
1:52:59 far off from them, and it’s hard to, it’s awesome, and all of
1:53:03 that.
1:53:04 But giving them a chance to understand those other schools,
1:53:06 when they just show up, so you can’t teach them confidence.
1:53:09 You know what I mean?
1:53:10 This is where you get to go.
1:53:11 I promise you, if you do that, more people will get to do this.
1:53:14 You get to go.
1:53:15 I’m keeping an eye on my five minutes.
1:53:18 CTE competition, CTE competition, I know you have an interest in
1:53:24 that.
1:53:25 We discussed it years ago actually, when I was, before I ever
1:53:27 got on the school board.
1:53:28 And I’d like to coordinate with you, and be the, work with
1:53:31 something,
1:53:31 trying to get some of the building associations around the state,
1:53:35 to get behind some of their schools, and see if we can create
1:53:38 some kind of competition.
1:53:41 Then last but not least, I just want to make you guys aware,
1:53:43 this is not set in stone, but we’ve discussed it a couple of
1:53:48 times.
1:53:48 And that is Deputy Mayor Jaffe, myself, we’re talking about that
1:53:53 from Palm Bay.
1:53:53 We’re talking about hosting a town hall meeting.
1:53:56 And then they’d be inviting Governor Stratton saying they did
1:54:00 the state rep,
1:54:01 you know, Winnie Miller, and Deputy Mayfield, to see what the
1:54:04 House got going on.
1:54:06 Try to do it in an all-inclusive town hall type of thing.
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1:54:14 So that’s all there can be on my list, I just wanted to kind of
1:54:18 get you guys updated.
1:54:19 » So, you know, we’re proceeding, well, you’ll do that crazy
1:54:22 stuff.
1:54:23 » [CROSSTALK]
1:54:53 » So, we’ll take a break.
1:55:01 [INAUDIBLE]
1:55:09 » It’s not just me, the people of the world.
1:55:12 » Me too, so discussion today.
1:55:15 So for the audience, it’s just discussion today.
1:55:19 We did not have any hurricane impact this year.
1:55:24 So we did not have to close school or anything like that.
1:55:27 Since we shortened the early release time on Fridays,
1:55:31 we have a lot more instruction limits.
1:55:33 And that’s the thing that everybody thinks the school calendar
1:55:37 is about days.
1:55:38 It’s not about days, it’s about minutes, instructional minutes.
1:55:42 So we didn’t lose any instructional minutes during hurricane
1:55:46 season.
1:55:47 We have two days of school after memorial day.
1:55:51 We had days of school after memorial day last year.
1:55:55 They were not very well attended.
1:55:58 We have enough minutes in our calendar that we don’t have to
1:56:02 come to school,
1:56:03 those last two days.
1:56:06 So I just need to know if the board is interested in me putting
1:56:09 together a proposal
1:56:10 that would eliminate those last few days from the school year.
1:56:15 » I would totally be interested, but I wouldn’t.
1:56:17 » The unintended consequences of what I wanted to check through
1:56:22 because schools
1:56:22 have built their, not elementary, but secondary and secondary
1:56:26 sectors in
1:56:26 particular have built their schedules or calendars around time
1:56:29 this week.
1:56:30 And the API testing and sometimes we even have testing on the
1:56:35 calendar.
1:56:35 So as long as we have you call me before- » I’m going to you,
1:56:39 that will adjust to our calendar.
1:56:41 » Okay. » Yeah, leave them.
1:56:42 » Yeah. » A couple things to think about.
1:56:44 And so, a lot of our employees technically don’t have schools.
1:56:50 They don’t, of course, for example, cafeteria, transportation.
1:56:54 » Also have to care.
1:56:55 » But they don’t care.
1:56:57 So we would still have them report to work on those two days.
1:57:02 And we would be training and other things like that.
1:57:04 For example, almost all of those, I think every one of those
1:57:09 people still
1:57:10 needs to have [INAUDIBLE] training, and it has to be updated
1:57:14 after three years.
1:57:15 So we could have them all, either go to the training course out
1:57:19 there and
1:57:19 have it, or do the update training on those two days.
1:57:22 I imagine that Mr. Thornton would find something for
1:57:25 these employees to do those two days that would be productive.
1:57:28 Same thing with transportation.
1:57:29 Any of our hourly employees that typically when we don’t have
1:57:32 school,
1:57:32 they don’t, of course, work.
1:57:34 We would have them report to work, just want them to be updated.
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1:58:06 » But we want the students to be meaningful and productive.
1:58:10 And those last few days, last year, I don’t know if they will be
1:58:13 more productive.
1:58:14 » The good news is- » The good news is, yes, yes.
1:58:17 The good news is, for next year, we finish before Memorial Day
1:58:21 holiday.
1:58:21 So, right, last year, Labor Day, we’re only at the same point.
1:58:25 » Next year, tomorrow.
1:58:26 » Okay.
1:58:28 That was it about finally.
1:58:30 » Okay, that’s great, we’ll come back in a week.
1:58:33 » Looking forward to it.
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1:59:04 » [LAUGH]
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1:59:34 » [INAUDIBLE]
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