Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL
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7:34 » Good afternoon.
7:36 The February 24th, 2026 work session is now in order.
7:39 Paul, roll call, please.
7:41 » Mr. Sheehan?
7:41 » Here.
7:42 » Ms. Wright?
7:42 » Here.
7:43 » Ms. Campbell?
7:43 » Here.
7:44 » Mr. Thomas?
7:44 » Here.
7:45 » Mr. Trean?
7:45 » Here.
7:46 » Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
7:48 I’ll wait for a second.
7:52 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
7:56 and to the republic for which it stands,
7:58 one nation, under God, indivisible,
8:01 with liberty and justice for all.
8:06 » Dr. Rendell, can you speak to the board about the items
8:09 on the agenda for today?
8:11 » Thank you, Mr. Chair.
8:13 On today’s agenda, we have rule development
8:15 for some proposed policy revisions.
8:17 This is public hearing number one,
8:19 and then we’ll have a discussion on vaping in schools.
8:22 » First up for rule development is board policy review
8:25 and rule development for the following policy, 3120,
8:28 employment of staff.
8:29 Is there anyone present who wishes to address these items?
8:35 Okay, moving on.
8:38 Moving on to policy 6210.001, allocation and use
8:43 of ad valorem millage.
8:45 Is there anyone here that wishes to discuss these items?
8:50 Do any board members wish to discuss these items?
8:52 » Mr. Chair, if I may?
8:53 » Yes, ma’am.
8:53 » A community member had reached out to me this week
8:55 and asked some questions about the verbiage that’s
8:57 in this policy because it is very specific
8:59 to how we must allocate the funds.
9:01 It replicates what the ballot initiative was when we went
9:04 out for this ad valorem millage,
9:06 which is why it is verbatim the same.
9:09 So I just wanted to clear that up in case they’re watching
9:10 and they see this and they go, “Hey,
9:12 why did you not take my suggestion of looking
9:14 at possibly allocating to different programs?”
9:16 We have to mimic exactly what was on the ballot
9:19 and that’s the reason that it is written in the way that it was.
9:21 So I just wanted to clear that up for the community member.
9:23 » Thank you for doing that clarification.
9:24 Anybody else wish to speak to the item?
9:26 No? All right, moving on.
9:28 Policy 8407, Safe School Officers.
9:32 Is there anyone present who wishes to address this item?
9:37 Any board members wish to talk?
9:39 Nope? Okay.
9:41 Hearing that, that takes care of the policies.
9:43 I brought up a discussion on vaping with some
9:45 of the new news just for clarification.
9:48 There’s nothing that came
9:50 out that has not already been happening inside
9:52 of our schools, but it did bring light to the problem
9:55 that just seems to keep coming back, right?
9:58 So what I was going to bring
9:59 up with the school board members is kind of a plan
10:02 of attack where we can go.
10:04 So I asked the staff, I said I met with some principals,
10:07 I met with some people that create devices,
10:09 I met with a couple other people, staff members
10:12 that are assistant superintendents
10:14 and just said, “Hey, what can we do in this space
10:15 that might be a little bit better?”
10:17 My original thought was to bring forward three components,
10:21 one discussion wrap, you all right?
10:23 » I’m good, thank you.
10:25 » One discussion wrapped around education, communication
10:29 to parents, teachers, staff, everybody else,
10:31 and students and parents.
10:33 The other one that I’m not going to bring forward was
10:35 to increase the discipline for the actual students
10:39 that are vaping, just so you know right now
10:41 if you’re caught vaping with nicotine, you don’t go
10:45 to Career Pathways, you come back and stay inside the school
10:48 and work with the schools, which we have seen some,
10:51 and I will be honest, we have seen some academic achievement
10:53 that follows that model of keeping those kids in school
10:56 and not just sending them off.
10:58 So I’m not willing to bring that forward, just so you guys know.
11:00 The other piece though is the, so we have the education,
11:03 we have that, and then the other device piece.
11:05 So I just kind of wanted to give an update on those and each one
11:08 of them kind of talk and then hear any discussion
11:11 of what you guys think, so.
11:13 So the first one we deal with is the education of staff
11:16 and stuff like that, so I tried to figure out, we need,
11:20 I feel that we could really do some fun stuff in this space
11:24 and educate and create some sort of a thing
11:29 because what we’re running
11:30 into is our vapes now are more addictive
11:33 than the cigarettes were.
11:35 There are chemicals and stuff that are inside the vapes
11:38 that are causing significant students
11:41 to be significantly addicted to it.
11:44 So I had a couple of parents reach out to me
11:47 after I did the piece on Fox 35 and they said
11:49 that their children are addicted to nicotine so bad
11:53 and this was two parents, there must be a facility in Orlando
11:56 that they’re bringing their kids to, it’s that bad.
11:58 And then as I started uncovering it, it is really bad.
12:02 And it’s not so much where I thought, which is why I wanted
12:05 to bring forward the discipline,
12:06 I was like all these kids are just knuckleheads trying to act,
12:08 it’s actually a significantly addictive thing.
12:11 So when I said that, I said, okay, I met with Pam Dampier
12:14 and some other people and I said, hey, is there anything
12:16 in this space that we can do better?
12:17 I would love to hear some ideas prior to coming to the board
12:19 to make sure that I’m there.
12:21 Ms. Dampier had said that in Indian River,
12:23 they had a very successful communications plan that worked
12:26 on different angles and I would like her after we talk here
12:30 to come forward and kind of, not today,
12:33 but meet with you guys one on one like she does and kind
12:35 of go over it to see if you guys had.
12:37 My thought was just to throw it on the table to see
12:40 if there’s anything that you guys felt
12:42 like we could do better or ideas that we could do in order
12:45 to enhance the communication to our parents and our kids
12:48 and stuff like that, because I feel
12:49 like if they knew how bad this really was that they could do,
12:55 we could actually educate them more, if that makes sense.
12:57 Sorry. Does that sound good?
12:59 Can you kind of throw the idea out?
13:00 Let’s talk around about–
13:01 » Yeah, I’d be happy to chime in on this one.
13:04 This one, this has been an issue since I was
13:06 on this board, the day I was elected.
13:07 That’s like the number one thing I was brought into
13:09 and they were going, “We can’t get a hold of vaping.”
13:12 It’s happening everywhere.
13:12 We’re having to close down bathrooms
13:14 because there’s kids that just vape and, I mean,
13:16 back in the day, it used to be cigarettes and I never
13:19 in a million years thought I would say this, but the good thing
13:21 about a cigarette is that it ends when the cigarette is done.
13:23 The problem with the vape is that it continually keeps ongoing
13:26 so it becomes more addictive to these kids.
13:30 And, you know, I talked to some friends in different counties
13:32 and did some research, it sounds like as you did,
13:34 and they were running into issues where kids were
13:36 like flushing them down the toilets
13:37 and causing plumbing issues.
13:39 Multiple kids would be in the bathroom.
13:40 There’s no way to detect which one had the vape.
13:42 So now, are we going to discipline them all?
13:44 And there was just a lot of nuances that went
13:46 around how do we fix this.
13:48 I do believe a good marketing campaign is good
13:50 and this one is probably going to be a little controversial
13:52 but this is what I think.
13:53 If I were leading a school, I would love to see our leaders do.
13:56 They’re confiscating these vapes every single day.
13:59 So why not have a smash the vape on TV program
14:04 where every week they get lined up
14:05 and your principal takes a sledgehammer
14:07 and smashes those vapes for the kids and makes them aware, hey,
14:10 if you guys keep bringing them, guess what?
14:11 We’re going to smash them again and again and again every week.
14:14 And maybe that’s– maybe people don’t like that but I feel
14:17 like if I were a kid, I might go, I don’t want my item smashed
14:20 on TV in front of everyone,
14:22 not necessarily bringing the kid forward.
14:24 But I’m just thinking we should do something
14:27 and it might be a little controversial
14:29 but I think it will send the message home
14:30 that we’re not playing with this
14:31 and we will happily take those vapes right off
14:33 of your hands and we will crush them on TV
14:35 so that every other student can see it.
14:36 » I love the idea.
14:37 Paul, can we take that and–
14:39 » No, I have to look at legal ramifications.
14:42 » When you look at that–
14:43 » And then we’re not giving them back so–
14:45 » Paul, what– I mean–
14:47 » Let me tell you something.
14:48 That’s probably the best idea I’ve heard to get to–
14:51 I’ll be honest.
14:52 We come out with the standard, OK everybody,
14:55 the vapes are addictive and all that stuff, right?
14:58 That is going to fall like a, you know,
15:01 all kinds of metaphors for that.
15:02 But the thing is, is this, is that that will–
15:05 it will start the conversation.
15:07 Paul, ask when you get it.
15:08 I think they become our possession, right?
15:11 Ask if we can–
15:12 » Not necessarily.
15:12 » Well–
15:13 » Like when we confiscate phones,
15:14 we can’t destroy them.
15:15 » Well, that’s not the same.
15:16 That’s not the same as this.
15:16 » But they’re getting– this is an illegal–
15:18 » You have not necessarily if they’re 18 or if they’re of age.
15:22 » No, they can’t bring them into our schools.
15:24 That is against our policy.
15:25 » It’s against policy but it doesn’t make it your property is
15:28 the question that I would want to look at.
15:30 If you destroy it, are you now on the hook
15:31 for replacing the property and then we’re going to be
15:34 in the business of buying bait for–
15:36 » No, that’s absolutely– there’s no way.
15:38 So we’ll revise the policy.
15:39 It’ll become our property.
15:40 I mean, that’s what needs to happen.
15:42 » Yeah.
15:42 » Or we can turn them all over to the sheriff
15:43 and let him smash them.
15:44 I’m sure he’ll be happy to smash them or blow them up
15:46 or whatever the case is.
15:46 » I don’t want the sheriff to be able to do it.
15:48 » I’m sure they’d be happy to step out of the arena.
15:50 » I’ll have to look at it.
15:50 » Can you ask also if we can nickname them when we get them,
15:52 like put nicknames, not kids’ names, nicknames on there?
15:55 That’d be fun.
15:57 Mr. Chair?
15:58 Yes, sir?
15:59 » Sorry.
16:00 » Mr. Rabbit, hold on that one.
16:02 » But I think–
16:02 » Just trying to bring it– rain us in a little bit.
16:04 » Well, no.
16:05 I like it.
16:06 » Now, when we have the meeting with Pam that you’re proposing,
16:09 do you think it would be wise to have Ms. Morningham in the room
16:13 with us and the meeting as well to talk
16:15 about marketing communications,
16:17 her ideas regarding how we might be able
16:19 to do a better job promoting it to the kids?
16:21 » Yeah. Ms. Pam had one that worked in Indian River.
16:24 She said that she brought it forward
16:26 and it just wasn’t the right time
16:27 about a year and a half ago.
16:29 She feels like it might be something
16:30 that we can bring forward and modify.
16:32 My thing is, is that she asked if she could do a better job
16:37 because this was yesterday that I was able to talk to her.
16:39 She didn’t want to come up to the podium and start talking
16:41 about it and so she puts it all together.
16:43 So I asked her if she could just meet with you guys and talk
16:45 about it and then we could come back, I think absolutely.
16:48 But I would like to check.
16:51 You are going to go look and see
16:52 about smashing these things and stuff like that.
16:54 OK, good.
16:55 » Smash the base.
16:56 » Mr. Chair, if I can go next.
16:59 So this is a problem that’s actually going back
17:01 to when it started exploding was when I first got
17:03 on the board back in 2018.
17:05 In fact, we took a group of–
17:07 this is pre-Jewell lawsuit which happened in like 2020.
17:11 In early 2019, we took a group of students, you know,
17:15 the group that Dr. Rendell meets
17:17 with the superintendent always meets
17:18 with of student body presidents, student body leaders.
17:21 We took them to Tallahassee and took them
17:22 into legislators’ offices and said, “What can you do to make–
17:28 you know, change the language, you know, put, you know,
17:31 on the companies, do whatever you can
17:33 to help prevent this problem?”
17:35 And it just has continued to get worse.
17:38 I am in love with the idea of public campaign
17:43 because anything we can do and not just boring–
17:46 whether it involves smashing or whatever, who we have to get
17:49 to is not just the students, we have to get to the heart
17:52 of the parents too.
17:53 » What? Let me see that.
17:54 » I already made an AI-generated campaign photo
17:58 for you.
17:59 » Go ahead, zero in on it.
18:00 » Thank you so much.
18:02 » Michael.
18:03 » But because in some cases,
18:05 parents are actually buying these for their children.
18:07 » Oh, that’s a problem.
18:08 » And they don’t– and you think in today, you know,
18:10 here we are eight years later, you think parents would get it
18:13 but they’re not all getting it.
18:14 But we have the right team in place with GCR.
18:18 We’ve got the right partners in place so we don’t have
18:21 to recreate– reinvent the wheel.
18:23 We have stuff that’s going on that we can push not just
18:26 in a peach jar email that parent–
18:28 requires parents to click on a link but like on our social media
18:31 with our partners so that we’re communicating.
18:33 Look, this is dangerous.
18:35 This is ruining your kid’s health and their minds
18:37 and it’s also ruining their opportunities at school.
18:41 I think that we have– want to touch on–
18:48 because it was mentioned something in the public
18:50 about vape detection systems and I know
18:52 when we first got the Juul money, that was one thing
18:54 that I went to Dr. Rendell and said, “Can we do this?
18:57 Some other schools are doing this.”
18:58 And his feedback from other districts were
19:00 that it was sometimes causing a worse problem
19:02 because of the plumbing issue.
19:03 So I don’t know if that– I mean, we can do multiple things
19:07 but I think it has to involve public campaign, a popular–
19:12 you know it can be shiny bright colors whatever we need but a
19:15 popular campaign
19:16 and also educating our students way back in 2018 2019 one of the
19:20 things we
19:21 realized back then was student to student was some of the best
19:25 communication because adults standing at the stage on the stage
19:30 yes right but if
19:32 the students are to our communicating with each other the
19:36 dangers and the
19:37 importance and that’s a different that’s a different message
19:39 that’s one of their
19:40 that’s beautiful that’s one of the reasons why when we did our
19:45 drug
19:46 diversion program that that social media aspect of it where they’re
19:51 speaking
19:51 their language to communicate to them that they’re better
19:54 without it well
19:55 tobacco doesn’t have the same kind of consequence but if we can
19:58 still have
19:58 some kind of campaign that communicates to them they even with
20:01 just nicotine
20:02 they’re better without it so I think we I absolutely get behind
20:06 that and we’ve
20:06 got the right people and the right partners I did want to just
20:08 highlight
20:09 I’m gonna mention it again tonight because it’s such a hot topic
20:11 right now
20:12 continuing to be but especially right now tomorrow actually our
20:16 drug-free
20:17 coalition it’s been sending out if you guys are on that email
20:21 list but tomorrow
20:22 February 25th at from 2 to 3 there is I think it’s a webinar and
20:28 they can
20:29 register for it navigating conversations about vaping with youth
20:32 and it’s got it
20:34 just it’s for parents like how do you talk to your kids about
20:36 this and so I
20:37 you know it’s not the be all end all but it’s just one more
20:39 resource that just
20:41 happened to be in my inbox when we were having this conversation
20:43 so I wanted to
20:44 share that that’s from the uplifters org which is the new name
20:47 for the Prevention
20:48 Coalition that we’re Brevard County as a part of so I was just
20:52 gonna mention that
20:53 as well that’s all I got right now I concur with the smashing
21:03 but you know I
21:04 think it’s great that we listen to the constituents and we know
21:09 it’s an issue
21:10 so I think us you know not rushing ahead and discussing you know
21:15 disciplinary
21:16 issues and stuff now but you know getting asking you know staff
21:20 to come
21:21 back with some recommendation I think that’s really smart this
21:24 is a really
21:24 good time for us to go back into the schools talk to our
21:27 principals get their
21:28 ideas of what could help what they think could help you know it’s
21:32 always good to
21:33 to get their opinions on things and and some things that have
21:36 worked you know
21:37 not every every school I’m hearing the same issues so maybe they’ve
21:40 done some
21:40 things that we you know could implement district-wide so I think
21:45 that’s really
21:46 good miss Campbell you talked about dating back to 2018 yes I
21:50 was in the
21:51 classroom at the time and it was a it was a crazy time where
21:55 even students
21:56 were doing this in class and getting caught you know because
21:59 they thought
21:59 they were you know bulletproof because it wasn’t smoke you know
22:02 but you could
22:03 you know you could smell the fruit punch flavors you know all
22:06 that kind of stuff
22:07 and they were getting caught but we’re learning every day that
22:13 some of the
22:13 adverse effects of the vaping itself not just the nicotine but
22:18 the other
22:19 chemicals that they put in there I know of a young man that
22:23 works at one of the
22:24 city’s city employee that was actually put in intensive care
22:28 because you know
22:29 he caught something some kind of infection just from the vaping
22:32 and he’s
22:33 a young guy and you know he’s talked about scared straight now I
22:37 mean he’s
22:37 he’s I think he’s still in the hospital and it wasn’t from
22:41 smoking cigarettes it
22:42 was just the vaping part of it so you know information to these
22:47 to these young
22:48 people is important you know they thought it was absolutely it
22:52 was sold to
22:52 them as there’s nothing wrong with this this is just air you
22:56 know it’s just
22:57 vapor you know so and we realize there’s so much now that we we
23:01 know in 2026 and
23:03 we did in 2018 so I think we need it’s it’s really good and it’s
23:06 it’s smart of
23:07 this board to understand it’s a problem we’re gonna take time we’re
23:10 gonna look
23:11 into it and you know together with staff communications and and
23:16 this board I know
23:16 we’re gonna address that so thanks mr. chair so I think as far
23:20 as the
23:20 educational piece we’re all in the grants we allow staff to come
23:23 up with
23:23 kind of miss Dan Pierre to kind of leave the charge and then
23:27 bring it to us in
23:28 our one-on-ones and then they can bring back kind of that to us
23:31 in a school
23:32 board meeting and we can discuss it openly so the public knows
23:35 that good
23:35 okay the other quick question yes sir you’re also as you’re in
23:40 our direction
23:41 to the staff is that there are she would also be coordinating
23:46 with with GCR to
23:47 get all that coordinate because they’re gonna need to coordinate
23:50 with all the
23:51 principles it’ll probably be in a next principal meeting to have
23:54 some sort of
23:54 breakout I met with I had I think six total principles that I
23:58 either talked to
23:59 in a group or individually like let them move throughout
24:02 everybody so it not only
24:03 there but also facilities and stuff like that you know because
24:08 what they were
24:08 telling is is that not only are they in there vaping but they’re
24:12 also destroying
24:12 the bathrooms tell so like toilets and sinks and stuff like that
24:16 being ripped
24:17 off the wall and everything else so that’s one of the other
24:19 reasons why
24:19 they’re reducing the bathrooms it’s not just because of the vapes
24:22 but because
24:22 it’s like animals inside there so facilities needs to be a part
24:25 of the
24:26 conversation and everything else mr. Gibbs can you reach the
24:29 legality of us
24:30 being able to destroy the vapes and respond back to the board on
24:32 that too
24:33 just to see is that I mean I’ll let the board know all right
24:35 thank you with
24:36 sledgehammers and possibly explosions probably not explosion we
24:43 don’t have to
24:43 do that on campus it can be out in the field somewhere yeah we’ll
24:46 do it it’s
24:46 also comes down to like other issues such as what types of
24:50 batteries are in
24:50 these devices I have no idea because it’s a battery it’s
24:53 hazardous material
24:54 and must be disposed of properly I feel like you’re finding
24:58 every reason to say
24:59 no and I need you to find a yes finding a way to destroy them
25:04 there’s like
25:04 multiple layers of issues that we have to look at when you’re
25:07 talking about
25:07 destroying something this guy is doing it and there’s sparks
25:16 coming out oh here
25:18 I got one for my main one for everybody well there’s there’s
25:23 both if you would
25:24 like one I was like I thought miss Campbell be so proud of you
25:27 to make this
25:28 image so look at that share one last note on that one I just
25:35 thought of it
25:36 I’m sure the staff would will think of it or have already
25:38 thought of it but
25:39 having the look for some kind of funding for some kind of
25:41 marketing campaign
25:42 whether through a grant or whatever for anti vaping I think you’re
25:47 gonna find
25:47 that there’s a lot of money in this space a great idea great
25:50 idea that’s
25:51 something okay all right we’re good there okay so the next piece
25:54 that I
25:54 wanted to talk about is is that we know across the board that a
25:57 lot of the
25:58 facilities that we’ve used the devices that we’ve used in order
26:01 to try to
26:02 control it monitor it and stuff like that have failed so they
26:06 have a series
26:07 of devices that they’ve used inside the bathrooms one is smoke
26:10 device so kids
26:11 are using like they’re breathing into their things to avoid it
26:15 they’re
26:15 throwing literally they’re smoking it and breathing it into the
26:19 toilet is what
26:20 some of them are doing to keep it out and they’re able to keep
26:22 it from
26:22 actually even censoring it in some places the smoke detector
26:25 systems that
26:26 they have they’re literally ripping them off the wall and
26:28 throwing them into the
26:29 wall into the toilet so there’s been a lot of mishaps with a lot
26:32 of the devices
26:33 because the people didn’t understand the schools so I had a
26:36 couple of device
26:38 manufacturers that deal with the Defense Department and and the
26:42 because they have
26:44 the same problem in the Navy if you can believe it so one of the
26:46 things that
26:47 they have is devices that actually monitor inside the Navy but
26:50 the thing is
26:51 is that inside the Navy it’s different because they have limited
26:55 rights and
26:55 they’re allowed to do things so so they have that and then they
26:59 also have in the
26:59 Department of Corrections they have the same problem so in the
27:02 Department of
27:02 Corrections they have it to where not only are they monitoring
27:05 inside but they
27:06 have one that registers every kid that goes in and has a light
27:08 up top that says
27:09 okay there’s more than one person you can’t go in there’s just
27:12 all these
27:12 options so I said okay I said it seems like we should we have
27:16 the ability to
27:17 find devices that are outside what’s been used before but the
27:21 problem is is
27:22 that they said they can do anything so for instance you don’t
27:25 have to have a
27:25 device inside the room you can have a device that listens to the
27:29 heat
27:29 signature which puts out radio waves and you can also have one
27:32 that listens to
27:33 the sound where you can have a rock concert going on and all of
27:36 a sudden
27:36 somebody hits a vape and it picks it up and it signals back to
27:39 you admin or
27:40 whatever it is understand so what I said was we have they’re
27:46 doing this in other
27:47 spaces why don’t we find out what’s legal and then bring that
27:51 back and let
27:51 them try to innovate that’s all like if they come back and they
27:54 say we can’t do
27:55 this or it’s illegal or whatever then we’re done but if they can
27:58 find
27:58 something then we go out to RFP or whatever it is for it so Paul
28:02 actually
28:02 mr. Gibbs actually is working on putting together a thing that
28:07 says this is
28:07 what’s legal inside of the monitoring of the bathroom because
28:11 what they were
28:11 saying is is that they have AI that does not record it just
28:16 listens for events so
28:17 if there’s a crack in the crystal or in the porcelain say for
28:20 instance it alerts
28:21 it alerts if all of those things and then there’s ways to tie in
28:24 cameras and
28:25 everything else so I just said way above my pay grade Paul if
28:28 you can figure out
28:29 how much is inside there and then maybe I have one of these
28:32 groups try to put
28:33 something together if they do great if they don’t no big deal no
28:35 cost on us
28:36 nobody’s looking to get any money so what do you guys think on
28:39 that good good
28:40 on that go ahead mr. John I’m all for enforcement but I also
28:45 think we just
28:46 need to focus equal attention on prevention and having a
28:49 consistent
28:50 message throughout the year on it yeah that’s there might be
28:56 some really great
28:57 technology that we haven’t seen or haven’t been exposed to but I
29:00 would like
29:00 to know more about it yeah that’s it and just from the pure
29:03 health standpoint
29:03 yeah I’m 100% against vaping in school and I want to enforce the
29:08 rules but I’m
29:09 what if we can prevent them from doing it you know or educate
29:11 them where they
29:12 don’t want to do it then that’s I think that would be cost-effective
29:16 all right I
29:16 agree but you’re okay with them researching stuff like that to
29:19 see what
29:19 comes up absolutely miss Campbell okay we’re all good yep okay
29:24 that’s all I’ve
29:24 got does anybody else have anything else that they wish to
29:26 discuss I can’t let
29:28 the conversation go by without saying one thing it is
29:30 unfortunate that the
29:33 chair went out to the public with something with before having a
29:37 conversation with the board we’ve had good conversations today
29:40 and before
29:41 having a conversation with the superintendent we can say no to
29:46 request
29:47 for the press and I think it’s always a good idea I’m just gonna
29:49 put this out
29:50 there as a reminder that the chair speaks for the board and
29:53 sometimes the
29:55 chair speaks ahead of himself and I think this was a good
29:59 conversation and I
30:00 feel like this may happen before that happened so I’m just gonna
30:04 register my
30:05 complaint with that how that happened and then when we do it
30:08 like this where
30:09 we’re bringing in conversations with us all together and we’re
30:13 going to have
30:13 further conversations with the staff and the people who are
30:16 gonna help make these
30:17 decisions to help give us more information that is a better
30:21 representation of what we as a district want to do what we as a
30:24 board want to do
30:25 we’ve done good work today and this very brief conversation and
30:29 getting some
30:29 direction going getting some thoughts going but this is the
30:32 better process and
30:33 so we just had to I didn’t want to leave that unsaid before we
30:38 walk away from
30:38 this conversation today that sounds great I think you completely
30:41 misinterpreted and misunderstood what was said so I was asked by
30:44 the Fox News
30:45 to what were we gonna do and I said as a board member I’m going
30:49 to bring this
30:50 before the board and have this discussion that’s what we did so
30:53 there’s
30:54 nothing wrong with that there’s not me saying we’re going to
30:56 move forward to do
30:56 this we’re gonna move forward to do that we’re gonna have this
30:59 discussion that is
30:59 completely within the right of the school board chair that is
31:02 completely
31:02 with the right within any of the other board members to have a
31:05 conversation
31:05 that says that they’re gonna bring something forward so I would
31:08 just I
31:08 would respectfully disagree with you in the conversation that
31:12 you had well mr.
31:12 chair when you tell the public that we’re going to start expelling
31:15 students
31:16 that’s different conversation then we’re part of a conversation
31:19 and I made the
31:20 clearance at the beginning of it to talk about it doesn’t matter
31:26 it’s that we
31:27 were gonna bring it forward before the board that’s completely
31:29 within the right
31:30 of what I have I actually had conversations at the beginning of
31:33 it and
31:33 decided to explain that to the public so there’s nothing wrong
31:35 with that that’s
31:36 within the scope of the school board chairman or any other board
31:38 member
31:39 we’re all good I have one more thing okay board obviously our
31:45 district is not
31:46 exempted from all the other districts that have been seeing
31:48 different
31:49 demonstrations that are going on around the state around the
31:51 country and
31:52 currently we have a policy in place for disorder and
31:55 demonstration is what we
31:56 have which is sort of kind of like it’s hitting lightly on what
32:00 it looks like if
32:01 a student’s gonna hold a protest on school sites and so I am
32:05 just asking I
32:06 have done a little bit of research on this and consulted with a
32:08 few other
32:09 people in different districts on what it looks like from their
32:11 district
32:11 standpoint and what they are doing I think it would be wise of
32:14 us to go ahead
32:15 and look at that policy which the policy is 5520 and go ahead
32:18 and probably put
32:19 some more teeth to this policy that is very specific it’s
32:22 nonpartisan in nature
32:23 it’s just to protect the integrity of our school sites being a
32:26 learning
32:27 environment and not becoming a ground place for demonstrations
32:30 to take place
32:31 and so I’m gonna pass out and I’ll give everyone Paul I think I
32:34 make copies of
32:35 all these a couple of suggestions is obviously we can we can add
32:39 us on a
32:40 future agenda and and kind of work through it but just to put
32:43 some more
32:43 teeth behind what we’re doing here and make sure that we are all
32:47 on the same
32:47 page because I have heard from parents all over the place how
32:50 frustrated they
32:51 were that this was taking place on our school sites and so I had
32:55 to clarify a
32:56 lot of what was going on was off of school site and children 100%
32:59 have the
32:59 right to protest outside of schools parents 100% of the right to
33:03 check their
33:03 children out of our school and go protest outside of the school
33:06 that exists
33:07 that is that is their right to do so but our kids are in the
33:10 classroom to learn
33:11 and so when they’re when they’re being exposed to different
33:13 demonstrations that
33:14 are not advantageous to their learning environment we need to
33:17 make sure that we
33:18 have the the tools in place that we can respond and respond
33:21 equally across the
33:22 board so I’m just asking in the future can we go ahead and look
33:25 at in the next
33:25 upcoming workshop mr. chair possibly adding 5520 on there and
33:29 work through
33:30 this policy to put some more teeth to it and hopefully come out
33:34 with something
33:35 that’s good and across the board equally fair Paul when is the
33:39 next workshop that
33:40 we have do you have that by any chance I think it’s at the next
33:43 board meeting day
33:44 all right do you think that March 10th is an early enough time
33:48 for us to kind
33:49 of put this on the agenda have a little bit of thought process I
33:52 can bring you
33:52 Neola’s template so the board can review what Neola recommends
33:57 and what our
33:57 current policy is and you guys give us direction on where you
34:01 want to go Paul
34:03 did you get a copy of the policy that I just yeah can we since
34:07 we’re gonna be
34:08 meeting with miss Pam d’ampierre over the communication stuff
34:11 possibly do you
34:12 think that we could meet with miss Pam d’ampierre prior to the
34:14 10th over some
34:15 of this stuff - yeah I mean there’s cop I can give her a copy of
34:18 it if she wants
34:19 to see the policy as well to see if there’s any issues that she
34:21 sees because
34:21 obviously we will have to look at the student code of conduct
34:24 because it got
34:25 everything that we do obviously kind of correlates back there to
34:28 how we handle
34:29 any kind of discipline that takes place so I’ll give you a copy
34:32 of this I know
34:33 Pam’s going not the student code of conduct thank you miss Dan
34:36 Pierre you’re
34:36 the best but yeah absolutely no I absolutely agree with you I
34:41 absolutely
34:42 think this is something to take a look at I think that we can
34:44 bring this back
34:45 at the next meeting I think that um for discussion right and
34:49 then staff can work
34:50 through what we want and then bring it back dr. and does that
34:53 sound about right
34:53 for you yeah March 10th would be the next opportunity to start
34:56 the
34:56 conversation okay so let’s go ahead and do if that’s okay Paul
34:59 let’s put it on
35:00 the agenda for March 10th and if you can bring the Neola back
35:03 and then if the
35:03 board members can kind of look at what they’re looking at I
35:06 wholeheartedly
35:06 agree with you with some of the stuff that I saw it you know it’s
35:10 needed so
35:11 thank you for so much for bringing that forward we might have an
35:15 acronym for
35:16 that here that we might want to name it as all right everybody
35:21 else good talk
35:22 about that there was I don’t know if it would be easier to hash
35:26 out calendar
35:26 while we’re all here March 13th as an off-site was mentioned I
35:29 don’t know if
35:30 when we talked about that if everybody remember that that’s a
35:32 student holiday
35:33 so for those of us who have kids at home who might not want to
35:37 have a meeting all
35:38 day meeting on a day that our kids are going to be off so we had
35:43 an original
35:45 date of March 3rd and then dr. Rendell had some school sites
35:48 that he wasn’t
35:48 able to move because they had some special events we tried to
35:51 move it to
35:51 March 17th but mr. Thomas because we wanted to try to host it at
35:56 his facility
35:56 was not able to acquire for March 17 so I thought March 13th
36:01 everybody had
36:02 agreed that they could make it and we only plan on being there
36:05 for three hours
36:06 in the morning now she does bring up a good point that we do
36:09 have our student
36:10 I’m okay with that because my yeah but if you know that is a
36:14 good question to
36:15 ask is everybody still okay with meeting on the 13th for three
36:18 hours for an
36:19 off Friday the 13th what’s wrong I’ve been trying to get this
36:23 thing all the
36:23 way through so yeah meeting so if we understood and what I sent
36:28 to Lena was I
36:29 am available but I prefer not to considering that it was a
36:32 student they
36:32 off you know and it since four of us are student for parents of
36:36 BPS students you
36:37 know I just want to make sure I knew that before they said yes
36:40 so if I knew
36:41 kind of what the goal of the meeting was that would be probably
36:44 helpful yep I can
36:46 email it to you yeah I I already said I’m available on that day
36:49 so I have an
36:50 evening commitment that night but I’m I can send it to you and I
36:54 think mr.
36:56 Thomas you’re good mmm Jean you’re good okay and dr. Endell was
36:59 good on that day
37:00 too so I can any absolutely I can get sent to us so I can you
37:05 know calendar
37:06 yep yep sounds like a plan okay mr. Thomas are you good
37:09 everybody else is
37:10 good across the board good dr. Adele do you have anything I do
37:13 not all right
37:14 mr. Gibbs yes yep all right meetings turn 30 minutes
37:44 you