Updates on the Fight for Quality Public Education in Brevard County, FL

2022-06-14 - School Board Work Session

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28:31 million and that’s also discretionary but the total change 42

28:34 million 42.1 million and again

28:38 that’s not dollars that goes all to the district the there’s

28:43 about 110 million

28:46 that is a pass-through that that goes to charters and

28:50 scholarships

28:54 and this breaks out some more of the categoricals

29:00 and then if you recall at the march budget update that bottom

29:14 line was 3.6.

29:17 We continue to revise the numbers as we get more information as

29:23 we

29:28 understand things that are they’re changing and and those kind

29:31 of things increases in costs for

29:33 contracts we reduce the minimum wage increase it used to be six

29:38 million and as we scrub that down

29:42 i believe it’ll be five million again this is their estimates

29:47 and then the frs rate originally

29:49 i had at four million and we scrubbed that as well and i believe

29:54 it’ll be more like 3.4

29:56 again as we move as we understand what our enrollment actually

30:01 is we’ll be able to continue

30:03 to revise these numbers so when you take the total revenue the 4.21

30:13 you subtract out the

30:15 categoricals you take out all the pass-throughs available

30:19 funding is 13.2 then we take out the

30:23 minimum wage the frs and our remaining revenue that we can use

30:28 for compensation that we can use

30:31 for health care the the the remaining discretionary dollars is 4.8

30:39 at this

30:42 so the benefits obviously there’s great benefits to this budget

30:48 and we went through all of these

30:52 and uh go on to the next and then one of the things i wanted to

30:58 talk about was the importance

31:00 of audits so we welcome the accountability the taxpayers and

31:05 trust us with their treasure

31:08 it’s an incredible responsibility and we want we open our books

31:14 to anyone because we want to be

31:17 able to make sure that we are transparent and that the dollars

31:21 every dollar counts that are going is

31:24 going to the right places and i believe in audits is my thought

31:29 is it’s an investment and it makes

31:32 us better in you know in findings regarding the first thing i

31:38 look at when if there’s a finding is

31:41 was it a system issue was it a process issue was it a person

31:46 problem or you know a manual

31:49 breakdown or was it a problem of time meaning there just wasn’t

31:53 enough of it and you know it

31:55 wasn’t a priority so kind of narrow down the root cause and then

32:00 the effect you know can we identify

32:03 what the effect was what the root cause was and can we change

32:08 that we need to ensure that we have

32:10 the internal controls and to prevent uh broadways and abuse and

32:16 then the thing that i like to do is

32:21 look for a bright spot you know you can look at all the findings

32:26 and and and we need to see those

32:29 but we also have bright spots and then if we have a bright spot

32:33 somewhere maybe that bright spot can

32:35 be trans transported all over and bring more bright spots so if

32:40 somebody’s doing something

32:42 really well we want it shared and we want people to to take a

32:47 look at where people are

32:52 doing things well and then again on the bottom there are audits

32:57 it’s not about paperwork it’s about everybody doing their job

33:00 correctly

33:04 and then we recently had a audit committee and there was some

33:07 discussion about difference between

33:09 an internal audit an external audit and basically an internal

33:14 audit is our internal auditors we are

33:18 like you know we as the audit committee will take a look and say

33:24 what are the concerns within the

33:30 district hey i’m kind of worried about um the process over here

33:34 or can you take a look over here

33:37 it’s things that we direct things that we want to make sure is

33:42 right things that may have high risk

33:45 and we just want to make sure that everything’s going well so we

33:48 just have somebody

33:49 our internal auditors go in and check it out for us and so the

33:53 internal auditors for us is rms

33:57 and they report to the audit committee they assess risk and best

34:03 practices they do test

34:05 internal controls and then they recommend what they you know

34:10 anything that they see that could

34:13 better the process and it’s continuous it isn’t once a year it’s

34:17 continuous they’re going in

34:20 they’re they’re looking at the processes and then after they do

34:24 that they’ll come back later and

34:26 check to make sure the fixes are still there or the fixes work

34:31 and then on external is more it’s

34:33 a third party it’s something you know it’s a requirement by the

34:38 state or a different agency

34:41 and you know they they go and they confirm that you’re following

34:46 the laws regulations grants

34:48 accounting standards and you know we have msl they have to come

34:53 look at our books every year at the

34:56 end of the year and give us a financial statement or a financial

35:00 opinion and this isn’t normally

35:03 voluntary i mean they come it’s by law by statute and then you’ll

35:09 see in the next slide or the next

35:11 two slides that the audit general is here now and they are

35:15 required to come every three years

35:19 and so this slide just kind of shows you some of the things that

35:21 we’ve done

35:23 over the year you can see that the annual financial audit and

35:27 then we’re also according

35:30 to red book we have to have a internal audit on our internal

35:33 accounts from the schools which is

35:36 kind of the fees and fundraising those kind of things and we

35:43 also take a look at the

35:46 the surtax we do that every i think every other every six months

35:51 education technology so making

35:56 sure that people can’t hack into our system is really important

35:59 so they’ll do those kind of

36:01 intrusion tests stimulus funding is all the funding that we’ve

36:07 received the esser the the cares

36:11 the arp all those dollars a lot of dollars and you know we were

36:17 rsm go look and make sure that

36:18 our processes are in place so we can ensure that we have the

36:23 transparency and that we’re using

36:25 these dollars as they’re intended and then again you’ll see

36:30 cycle audits some of the ones that we

36:35 continue to do like time keeping and the msl they’re here now

36:44 they’re they’re pulling all

36:46 this data to start working on their audit for our books at the

36:50 end of the year and then also we have

36:53 the audit general here it comes every three years they’re

36:56 looking at our financial and they’re

36:59 looking at our operational in the operational they’re looking at

37:02 mental health plan make sure

37:04 that we’re following all the regulations and guidelines law they’re

37:10 also they looked at

37:13 full safety and tested that and they’re looking at how we’re

37:18 calculating and providing tsia for the

37:21 teachers so and and that’s what they’re doing so far we still

37:26 don’t know everything that they’re

37:29 going to look at but they’re going to give us a good look and we

37:32 welcome it we want to get better

37:34 so challenges that is the the first bullet i believe is the most

37:41 challenging because we

37:44 have a finite budget and we have so many things that we have to

37:51 do and we we have a finite budget

37:54 eighty percent of our budget is uh labor and then you’ve seen

38:02 all of the the restricted areas we

38:06 have very little discretionary dollars and what discretionary

38:10 dollars that we have we just really

38:13 need to use it um so sparingly because it’s just so important

38:19 because we want to provide recurring

38:22 compensation to all our employees we know that that’s just so

38:27 important we want them to have

38:29 great health care or yeah we do want them to have great health

38:34 care we also are aware of the

38:37 compression issues so we got to balance all that with you know

38:42 the the finite amount of money

38:46 the the increase for health care this year the projections 13

38:52 million dollars that’s a lot of

38:55 money in the previous slide you saw a 4.8 so you may wonder well

39:01 what are we going to do with the

39:03 you know how we’re going to get other dollars um so we’re going

39:07 to change our processes

39:09 and historically we had so again eighty percent of our budget is

39:16 labor and no matter

39:21 even in the best years we’re going to have vacant positions and

39:24 vacant positions are going to

39:26 generate lap which is additional dollars um or dollars that

39:31 weren’t spent on the labor

39:34 and then the other thing that we’ve done historically is have a

39:40 reserve for

39:43 employee units so if you know if a school enrollment goes way up

39:50 then we need more

39:52 teachers so we have reserve units so we’re gonna we’re gonna do

39:57 something different we’re gonna

40:00 use that reserve funding and we’re going to put it in the front

40:04 and we’re going to use

40:05 that buying power and then that’s going to that’s reoccurring

40:09 dollars that allows us to

40:16 it allows us to provide compensation for our employees it allows

40:22 us to have

40:23 additional recurring dollars to help with our health care costs

40:29 and it’s just a smarter way

40:31 of doing business instead of letting the the lapse rate and the

40:37 you know if we use the reserves those

40:40 dollars fall to the bottom every year and then pay um recurring

40:46 requirements at the end of the year

40:49 let’s just put it all up front so we’re going to budget for all

40:53 those items that we normally pay

40:55 at the end of the year and we’re going to budget for what we

41:00 spend and we’ll have less laps or

41:03 we’ll have less fallout at the end of the year but we’re also

41:07 using that buying power more effectively

41:13 and again we talked about many of these risks inflation supply

41:19 line disruptions we’re seeing

41:21 that right now i mean if you try to buy a van i don’t think that’s

41:25 going to happen anytime soon

41:28 and then we have the esser esser has been an amazing

41:36 assistant in helping educate our kids and providing programs and

41:44 it’s just been

41:44 amazing however it’s going to end so we need to make sure that

41:48 we have a soft landing with our

41:50 for our esser and then we also need to start planning for a flat

41:54 enrollment recovery or if

41:56 we’re not going to recover what are we going to change because

42:00 you know again we have a finite

42:02 amount of money that can be used towards compensation and the

42:07 other things that we want

42:09 to do so it’s one of those things is what are we going to do and

42:13 what we’re not going to do so

42:16 that’s what we that’s our challenge but again i think we’re in a

42:20 much better position than we were

42:23 the last two years and i’m looking forward to seeing how the

42:27 year plays out

42:31 and this is our budget adoption timeline

42:40 and this is this is good news so our tax roll came back

42:47 an estimate and it came march i’m sorry may 31st and it

42:52 increased it increased to

42:54 61.9 a billion dollars so that is money that is on our tax roll

43:04 and we’ll get the certified amount

43:06 in july july 19th no later than so just based on this estimate

43:14 we our lci or our local capital

43:17 investment went up about 7.4 million dollars so we came to you

43:23 last month or i’m sorry in march

43:26 and we told you that we had about 28.7 million dollars remaining

43:32 for projects

43:33 and now we’re up to 35.3 so we’re gonna reconvene the committee

43:40 take a look at

43:44 you know the different projects what we want to do and come back

43:48 with a recommendation of

43:49 now that we have additional capital dollars what is the best

43:54 then for those

43:59 and again this was the list that we provided prior so are there

44:06 any questions

44:12 um i have a simple one and i think my triple check i think it’s

44:16 on slide six

44:18 so uh we’ve seen this slide before many times uh but i just

44:23 something i just never asked

44:24 so when we’re presenting this data with the numbers from the

44:27 district the charter the

44:28 scholarship when we have students that access scholarships for

44:33 instance like the mckay

44:34 but they use it to go to a bps school from one to another one

44:38 that’s outside of their zone school

44:42 is that reflected in the number of scholarship or is that

44:44 reflected

44:45 still in district because they’re staying within the district

44:48 but they access the scholarship and

44:49 use it i in that case so fte isn’t necessarily one student um so

44:57 if um a student came in

45:01 halfway through the school year they would be a 0.5 those kind

45:05 of things so i i

45:08 so it would be split it would be split it wouldn’t be one

45:12 student maybe it would be

45:13 district a certain percentage in the mckay okay i was just

45:17 curious because um because we’ve seen

45:19 that significant jump i know that you were saying these are also

45:22 students that never

45:22 stepped foot in bps so that number is inflated as well as homeschool

45:25 students

45:27 so just curious i think we’re asking is if they move one bps

45:29 school to another bps school that

45:31 wouldn’t necessarily be reflected here they’d still be under the

45:33 district correct correct

45:37 um yeah i’ve got um a question so um on just i’m going to start

45:44 with the back end the capital

45:46 dollars you talked about we’re going to have uh increased

45:49 spending for that and i’m glad you guys

45:51 are going back to the table because even if we added in the the

45:55 add back list that’s still only

45:58 a couple million dollars more so my question is did you guys

46:01 already build into the original list

46:03 some inflationary cushion knowing where we were um or is it

46:08 possible that the projects that we

46:10 already have might need some of this um to just get them done

46:16 that’s a good point yes we would

46:19 have to relook at that okay but you don’t know i mean some of

46:22 them build in a little bit because i

46:24 mean we were when you guys were convening this spring i mean we

46:26 were already feeling the effects

46:27 of some of that i mean if it’s incurred if it was then current

46:31 pricing at the time you know right

46:33 and timing too if you uh purchase vehicles or buses or computers

46:40 you know with the supply line

46:43 disruptions are they going to come in timely though and you know

46:47 there’s supply and demand

46:49 so when there’s less supply the costs go up with demand that

46:54 that’s a very good point that we’ll

46:57 have to take a look at right um and then the last question going

47:02 back to the um the slide with the

47:08 tax assessment history of course for lci that’s great news

47:12 because you know it will naturally

47:15 increase like you said the amount of capital dollars we get um

47:19 it’s not necessarily reflected

47:22 in our general funding because that’s controlled by the state

47:26 but the state did if i’m if i remember

47:29 correctly it looks like our required local effort is going to

47:33 actually remain flat from last budget

47:36 year to this budget year i know we don’t probably know the exact

47:38 number because i think that comes

47:39 out in july right but isn’t it estimated it’s going to be

47:43 actually they’re not going to roll

47:46 it back the state didn’t necessarily roll back the rates again

47:48 like they have for the last seven years

47:50 am i am i reading that correctly i mean you didn’t have it in

47:53 your presentation but when it

47:54 seems like that’s what i had heard when i the budget was

47:57 presented right so um when it comes

48:01 to the general fund like like you said or the fund 100 those

48:07 dollars are from all the the tax

48:10 property tax are all sent up to the state and then they allocate

48:15 it out so you know they built their

48:17 budget and that’s the budget so if even though our our dollars

48:22 are going up quite a bit or our tax

48:26 rolls going up it doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re going to

48:30 be able to keep all those dollars

48:32 but with the lci that’s the 1.5 mil right and that’s for capital

48:38 and so they’ll be able to keep

48:41 that now um on the operating side we also have that if you

48:46 recall that 0.748 mil and i was very

48:52 excited about that and and did the calculations and was hoping

48:56 that we had an increase in dollars

48:58 but then there’s also that other categorical that is for

49:04 districts that are below average and that

49:09 was about eight million dollars according to the conference

49:14 report but when you do all the math

49:17 it ends up washing so we so we lose on that we don’t lose but we

49:24 don’t gain okay so i guess i i

49:28 do realize that the change in that won’t miss if it does remain

49:30 flat it doesn’t have effect on our

49:32 revenue because that’s based on students but i just wondered if

49:35 it was in any way kind of a

49:36 recognition by the state that we do need to realize that

49:42 increase in funding you know through

49:45 the year right well and again we’ll know more in uh july uh when

49:50 we get the second count because

49:53 that’s when the fdoe sends down what what we can um thank you

50:03 can we put that one up there

50:10 can we put that one up there that has the different years with

50:14 the

50:16 not the property value that one went over it’s the other one

50:21 that has scholarship okay i don’t have

50:24 i don’t have access to my thing oh not a problem is this the one

50:27 you’re looking for

50:29 can you can you go to her computer

50:36 it’s on the screen

50:40 so because there was a an anomaly that was i was speaking to a

50:43 group of people over at a church

50:46 last week and district means that’s how many students actually

50:49 step foot into our schools

50:51 right charter means that’s how many students actually step foot

50:54 into a charter right scholarship

50:56 that’s mckay scholarship and homeschool there that was there’s

51:00 some homeschool but it’s um

51:03 and the empowerment yeah family empowerment is the overarching

51:10 that’s so there was an anomaly where they were saying that there’s

51:13 a lot of homeschool students

51:16 who are part of like a charter school type um online system that

51:20 looks like it’s acting like a

51:23 charter school um but do we have the home school totals is what

51:26 i was looking for do we have that

51:28 or is that something i should just that’s something that we can

51:32 get for you okay nobody do i just i

51:34 just didn’t know if they were baked into that that’s all yeah i

51:37 i do know students that are

51:39 part of a like charter or private school that it’s it’s beyond

51:42 the co-op like an actual curriculum

51:45 and stuff that they buy into and it’s being it’s it’s going it’s

51:48 a little off i’ll just that’s all

51:50 that’s all that’s all i needed thank you okay yeah i think miss

51:53 lesinski referenced what i believe

51:56 you’re you’re talking about mr susan is that within family

52:00 empowerment scholarship there are

52:03 students who never came to brevard public schools who were

52:06 previously home education

52:07 that are now receiving a family empowerment scholarship for

52:11 participation in a private school

52:14 so that jump in participation of family empowerment includes

52:19 students who never

52:20 won that were always in private and stayed in private as well as

52:23 some who may have gone from

52:24 home ed to private but never came into brevard public schools

52:28 did i reflect that correctly miss

52:30 lesinski you did the um the family empowerment also uh provides

52:36 vouchers for parents at home

52:39 school so um parents at home school that did that you know

52:45 without additional funding are now able

52:49 to receive funding for that yeah if you can just email me the

52:53 last five year totals for home

52:55 school okay thank you anybody else all right thank you miss lesinski

53:06 thank you thank you

53:08 all right we’re now going to begin our public hearings is there

53:11 anyone present

53:12 who wishes to address board policy 3315 student and staff

53:15 wellness

53:18 is there anyone present who wishes to address board policy 3315

53:22 student and staff wellness

53:24 does any board member have anything to discuss pertaining to

53:26 this policy

53:28 all right is there anyone present who wishes to address board

53:31 policy 5121 controlled open enrollment

53:34 is there anyone present who wishes to address board policy 5121

53:37 controlled open enrollment

53:39 does any board member have anything to discuss pertaining to

53:42 this policy

53:44 is there anyone present who wishes to address board policy 7250

53:48 commemoration of school facilities

53:50 for anyone present who wishes to address board policy 7250

53:54 commemoration of school facilities

53:56 does any board member have anything to discuss pertaining to

53:58 this policy

54:01 is there anyone present who wishes to address board policy 7110

54:04 student accommodation

54:07 is there anyone present who wishes to address board policy 7110

54:11 student accommodation does

54:12 any board member have anything to discuss pertaining to this

54:15 policy is there anyone

54:18 present who wishes to address board policy 8510 wellness stellini

54:30 i just had a quick question um i’m happy to see that wellness is

54:34 being prioritized and

54:36 um but i would like to ask how parents and community members can

54:40 review the wellness

54:41 curriculum updates so if somebody could get back to me with that

54:45 that would be great thank you

54:46 miss stellini just make you go did you want to respond to that i

54:51 know miscellany i know that

54:53 it’s on the there’s a web page um and i know our website

54:56 sometimes is tricky to navigate

55:00 um dr sullivan can you help me about how they can look at our

55:06 wellness because i’m certainly

55:08 part of the you know okay do you go to departments food and

55:13 nutrition services correct that’s right

55:16 and then over on the side at the very bottom on the link if you’re

55:20 on your phone it’s a little

55:22 different but it says wellness policy and there is the annual

55:27 wellness policy and

55:30 sorry and updates are all there so it’s under food nutrition

55:37 services and procedures

55:54 all right anybody have anything else

55:58 all right if there is no further business this meeting is now

56:02 adjourned

56:28 you

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